Confirmed with Link: Vladimir Tkachev to Attend NYR Development Camp

[NYR Viper]

Just sign him and let him practice with the big squad. You can always send him down on ‘conditioning stints’ if needed can’t you?

As someone else mentioned, if another team were to claim him, he may just decide to not come over.

At this point though, he needs a place to play.

 

[Hire Sather]

And yet, if the devils signed Kovulchuk for 8 mil right before the trade deadline (when the cap hit would be substantially less), you would probably call that a joke too.

It's a different situation cause they got out of that contract years ago.

He shouldn't have to pass thru waivers tho.

Every team in the league had a shot at this prospect. He brought him in, he shouldn't have to pass through anything.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

It's a different situation cause they got out of that contract years ago.

He shouldn't have to pass thru waivers tho.

Every team in the league had a shot at this prospect. He brought him in, he shouldn't have to pass through anything.

Rangers didn't really bring him in though, he had visa issues and didn't come over at all

 

[GAGLine]

It's a different situation cause they got out of that contract years ago.

He shouldn't have to pass thru waivers tho.

Every team in the league had a shot at this prospect. He brought him in, he shouldn't have to pass through anything.

Maybe that was a bad example. My point was that requiring waivers makes it so teams can't game the system. They can't add high value players from other leagues late in the season, when the cap hit is minimal, without some risk.

 

[Griffinbw]

Maybe that was a bad example. My point was that requiring waivers makes it so teams can't game the system. They can't add high value players from other leagues late in the season, when the cap hit is minimal, without some risk.

Tkachev isn’t Kovy. Don’t think he’d get claimed, but I’d love to have him.

 

[GAGLine]

Tkachev isn’t Kovy. Don’t think he’d get claimed, but I’d love to have him.

Certainly. I was just trying to point out why the rule exists.

 

[Ola]

He can sign an AHL contract without passing through waivers. Can we pay him fairly under a one year AHL deal? There is no cap on AHL deals right?

Feels like we aren’t creative that often in these situations. We have he money, give him 3m USD for the rest of the year. Sign a NHL agreement that will enter into force in the summer.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

If he most likely wouldn't get claimed, why wouldn't we try to sign him? Lord knows we need another forward. We're under 50 contracts. Potential Shipachyov situation if he's not ready for the NHL?

 

[TheTakedown]

Don't think there is a cap for AHL Contracts. They could probably award him one assuming his Visa issues are worked out. If they are, then the Rangers become the owners of Tkatchev as a player, and any time that tries to offer him an NHL contract has to go through the Rangers first, at which point I think the Rangers will sign him to an NHL contract.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Babaev also said the Blackhawks have previously expressed interest in another client, Russian forward Vladimir Tkachyov, who also terminated his contract with Admiral on Thursday. The Edmonton Oilers previously attempted to sign the 22-year-old Tkachyov, but the contract was voided. He has 14 goals and 16 assists in 30 games this season in the KHL.
Babaev said he has heard from many teams regarding Tkachyov, and they'd likely wait until after the 2018-19 season to sign with an NHL team. Babaev thought Tkachyov and Nalimov would likely end up on the same KHL team.
“The Blackhawks have shown interest,” Babaev said. “They call about him every time. He'll play one more season here and then we'll decide. We don't know where he will sign.”

Blackhawks goalie prospect Ivan Nalimov assessing options...

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Just sign him and let him practice with the big squad. You can always send him down on ‘conditioning stints’ if needed can’t you?

As someone else mentioned, if another team were to claim him, he may just decide to not come over.

At this point though, he needs a place to play.

Conditioning stints have to be approved by the league and the player has to agree to it.

 

[Ola]

One good thing is that if you sign someone like Tkachev another team that claims him must play in the NHL or send him through waivers when he is demoted. So it’s only worth it for someone to pick him if they plan to use him in the NHL.

 

[Ola]

This is getting close to billable hours, , but we could safely get Tkachev to the AHL by making a deal with the top team in the waiver draft.

This is how it works, we sign him and send him through waivers. The top team in the waiver drafts takes him, and cannot send him to the AHL since they acquired him through waivers, but if they trade him to us we can. In this position we have acquired him through a trade and can send him through waivers.

 

[cheech70]

This is getting close to billable hours, , but we could safely get Tkachev to the AHL by making a deal with the top team in the waiver draft.

This is how it works, we sign him and send him through waivers. The top team in the waiver drafts takes him, and cannot send him to the AHL since they acquired him through waivers, but if they trade him to us we can. In this position we have acquired him through a trade and can send him through waivers.

My kind of Lawyer..but do you think that the league would frown using circumstancing of law argument?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

This is getting close to billable hours, , but we could safely get Tkachev to the AHL by making a deal with the top team in the waiver draft.

This is how it works, we sign him and send him through waivers. The top team in the waiver drafts takes him, and cannot send him to the AHL since they acquired him through waivers, but if they trade him to us we can. In this position we have acquired him through a trade and can send him through waivers.

Unless they are the only team putting a claim in. In that scenario, they can send him to the AHL without him having to clear waivers again.

 

[Ola]

Unless they are the only team putting a claim in. In that scenario, they can send him to the AHL without him having to clear waivers again.

There is a special provision for these players:

13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That's similar to normal waivers. So if there's only 1 team putting a claim in, they can send him down

 

[Avery16]

I think if he were on waivers, multiple teams would claim

 

[Ola]

That's similar to normal waivers. So if there's only 1 team putting a claim in, they can send him down

I think you got a bit backwards, is this what you are referring to?

13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently, in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative) and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful claim.

It means that if a team loses a player on waivers, and then reclaim this player and is the only one putting in a claim they can send him to the AHL. Not that a team putting in a claim on a player can demote the player without waivers just because there was only one claim.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

There is a special provision for these players:

13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.

But the same goes for players claimed on waivers who are put on waivers. When a player is claimed, he needs to clear waivers to be sent down. This happened to Reid Boucher. New Jersey claimed him off waivers from Nashville, wanted to send him down, had to clear waivers but was then picked up by Vancouver.

If Boucher was claimed by New Jersey without any other team putting in a waiver claim, he could have been sent down without having to go through waivers. From what I can see in the CBA, this entry waivers rule isn't any different in that regard.

 

[Ola]

AK- So you mean that if say we where the only team that put in a claim on Puempel — we could have sent him to the AHL without anyone (Ottawa included) having a chance to claim him back? I am almost 100% that that just isn’t the case.

The only rule of that nature in the CBA covers the situation were we for example pick Cracknell of waivers from Dallas, then demote him to the AHL which means that he has to pass through waivers, and Dallas — his original team — is the only team claiming him this time, Dallas can send him to the AHL.

 

[Irishguy42]

Signed two year deal in KHL.

Go go gadget Gusev

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Signed two year deal in KHL.

Go go gadget Gusev

Its really 1.5 years. His contract ends at the same time Shestyorkin's does.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Its really 1.5 years. His contract ends at the same time Shestyorkin's does.

Is it? Or is it a 2-year extension?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Is it? Or is it a 2-year extension?

His agent said the other day thats what he was signing for.