Vladimir Tarasenko

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Has he peaked?

  1. Yes

    54.7%
  2. No

    45.3%
  1. Celtic Note

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    I wish there were more options in this poll. Neither yes or no appeal to me. There is a big qualifier that needs to be attached for me to vote. If Vlad decides to play a more complete game, then he hasn’t peaked. If he doesn’t, then likely he has peaked. I don’t think his age is the defining factor here.
     
  2. CaliforniaBlues310

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    I think he’ll be back to normal soon. He seems to be developing some pretty good chemistry with O’Reilly. Once we have our top 6 rolling we should be more than just fine offensively.
     
  3. TheGoldenGod

    TheGoldenGod 5 Star Man

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    Ya I've been wanting to see Perron - ROR - Tarasenko together since training camp
     
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  4. CaliforniaBlues310

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    I personally want one of Perron, Schwartz, or Fabbri on that line. They’d be the best fits IMO.
     
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    simon IC Defense first!

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    Agreed. I also think Perron is more effective on the left, even though he is a RHS.
     
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    Yep. That's where he was last season.
     
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    Can you expand on this? What happened with Berglund?

    And do you remember exactly what Karraker said?
     
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    Tarasenko used to be consistent offensively and inconsistent defensively, and now he's gravitated toward being inconsistent in both areas. He has moments where he dazzles us, whether it's a quick drive to the net or a gutsy backcheck to prevent an odd man rush. However, I am also seeing times where his idea of forechecking is to wave a stick in a defender's vicinity, or he's caught standing around in the defensive with no desire to retrieve the puck. I vividly remember an instance where the puck wrapped around the boards to Tarasenko's area, and instead of moving toward the puck he just stood where he was and forced Pietrangelo to have to push up to pressure the opposing player. Plays like that drive me nuts.

    He absolutely has the ability to be a superstar in the league, but I feel as if he's missing that extra bit of drive. I wouldn't say he's peaked yet though. I agree with BlueDream that the turning point for Tarasenko has been that series against the Sharks where he couldn't muster anything offensively until the final game. Since then, he hasn't been as noticeable. But I wouldn't consider that his peak, I think he has a lot more to give and it'll take some time with his shoulder surgery being so recent. I do have doubts that he'll be able to elevate his game to that next level, but there's still a possibility, and so I can't say with good faith that he's officially peaked.
     
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    Agreed. The offense wasn't the squad allowing CBJ forwards to beat them to the net all night for easy tap-ins. O produces; D struggles and G suffers as a result.
     
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    Its on him at this point. I remember going into last season he told the media, he wanted to be a 50 goal scorer. So saying that and doing that are two different things but if you want to be that, he has to take control of himself to find the back of the net. What I have noticed about his game, his shoulder I don't think is 100% yet because I have seen very few of his famous shot so far, he done more back handers. If he can get that shot going again, he should be fine.
     
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    With his shot, he seems to miss the net more often than not. He tries to hard to pick corners which are seldom there like they use to be. At least hitthe net and give us some rebounds.

    I feel that 91 needs just needs to spend an hour or two everyday on the treadmill and drop 30 pounds...
     
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    No, he has room and time to grow.
     
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    Why do you think he can power his way to the net so often? He carries his weight well, I wouldn't want him at 200#.
     
  14. TheGoldenGod

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    BUMP!!!

    Only 4 games in and it looks like I'm having the same exact feelings I had a year ago. I know...

    He finished strong last season and played well in the postseason but his game to game consistency/compete level still drives me bananas!

    Yes... he's coming off surgery but I feel like I've read this story before.

    I mean - he doesn't need to be scoring all the time, but I feel like it's clear as day when this guy is focused/engaged and when he is not....or am I just seeing things??!?!?

    Will we ever see him cross the 75 pt threshold?

    For the record, I would love nothing more than to have him make me eat my words.
     
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    Xerloris reckless optimism

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    Know what the similarities are between this year and last? He's had shoulder injuries both off seasons. When your game revolves around how deadly your shot is I would imagine a shoulder injury slows things down a lot.
     
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    I thought he had knee surgery after the playoffs, not another shoulder surgery?
     
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    He doesn’t look dynamic at all - Blais looks more confident and dynamic than him. He needs to step it up, big time.
     
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    Yea, there was a moment yesterday when he was breaking down the wing and he had some solid space to the middle. He tried to pull that move where he cuts middle, shoots.....and the D just knocked it away. I haven't seen him create space for himself in what feels like years....sure he can still shoot the puck when he gets it in space from someone else.....but he can't generate his own space anymore.
     
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    I think Heiskanen would argue with you. Go to the 3:06 mark of the video.


     
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    Yup knee surgery not shoulder
     
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    Xerloris reckless optimism

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    Look, he is what he is. He's going to go through slumps where he's very quiet and then he's gonna break out and score 20 goals in 25 games and everyone will be saying "good thing we didn't trade him!"

    He's a streaky player. That's never going to change. He's just a completely different player from a guy like ROR and that's okay. Most pure goal scorers are. People will say the same things about Stamkos and Kessel as they do Tarasenko.

    But the bottom line is, he's still going to get his 35 goals this year and that cannot be replaced. So there's not much to debate.
     
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    I mean...

    I get it. I know what kind of player he is and he’ll probably end up with his 30-35 but we need more engagement on a game to game basis.

    SN announcer said Tarasenko was in Berube’s “doghouse” because of his slow start. Berube had “a long talk” with him after the Ottawa game.
     
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    Tonight Tarasenko looked like he doesn't want to play. He gets most offensive icetime and powerplay time, but he's 0+2 this season.

    There is big difference when Tarasenko is playing his A+ game, but now he's playing D- game. Its pathetic level.
     
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    I wouldn’t hesitate moving him for the right player. He would have to fit these criteria

    Young
    Ascending
    Under team control for numerous years
    25+ goal scorer
    Physical
    2 way player

    Who? No idea. Lol
     
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