Prospect Info: Vitali Kravtsov: Part VIII

[QJL]

6'4" is a bit arbitrary as your cut off point. Elias Pettersson is currently 6'2" and is only 176. I think he's doing just fine.

I wasn’t arguing that Kravtsov needs to weigh 200+ to be successful. I’m fine with him at a leaner weight around 190. Whatever keeps him dancing like he’s dancing right now.

 

[Leetch3]

6'4" is a bit arbitrary as your cut off point. Elias Pettersson is currently 6'2" and is only 176. I think he's doing just fine.

its not arbitrary at all. We are talking about kravtsov who is now listed at 6’4

 

[kovazub94]

6'4" is a bit arbitrary as your cut off point. Elias Pettersson is currently 6'2" and is only 176. I think he's doing just fine.

What about “over the age of 21” part?

 

[Edge]

So the point of all this is that if the Rangers were very happy with the progress they saw last year, they are going to continue to be very happy with that they are seeing now.

Ditto for Lundkvist.

 

[Trxjw]

The Rangers have one of the top prospects in the KHL and one of the best D prospects in the world playing in the SHL. Yet neither is viewed as the top organizational prospect and both will be a spot further down the list after the draft in October. That's melting my brain a little bit.

 

[Mac n Gs]

The Rangers have one of the top prospects in the KHL and one of the best D prospects in the world playing in the SHL. Yet neither is viewed as the top organizational prospect and both will be a spot further down the list after the draft in October. That's melting my brain a little bit.

Is it? One's a good ol' Canadian boy. The other two are soft euros.

The crazy thing about Kravtsov's season is that he easily could be top-3 in KHL scoring right now if his damn teammates could finish. He should realistically have a 6-4-10 statline. Some of his set-ups were absolute gimmes for goals.

 

[Trxjw]

Is it? One's a good ol' Canadian boy. The other two are soft euros.

The crazy thing about Kravtsov's season is that he easily could be top-3 in KHL scoring right now if his damn teammates could finish. He should realistically have a 6-4-10 statline. Some of his set-ups were absolute gimmes for goals.

Well at least it sounds like the system has improved a bit and the team is playing better overall. Hopefully that lifts the group's production as the season rolls on.

The biggest obstacle for Kravtsov is going to be gaining the trust of the coaches and playing with consistency from shift to shift. Seems like the latter is coming around thus far this season which is great news. If he can jump back over to NA and immediately translate into an offensive threat, he'll have no problem carving out a role in the lineup right away.

 

[carminejr]

Oh yay another burner account. FFS.

Can’t handle a little commentary? Didn’t ride buses in the na south all those years just to be called a burner by some rando. I think we can all agree krav needs to put on a few more pounds between now and whenever the org is ready to give him the tap on the shoulder. Gotta be on his feet if he’s to replicate some of the high end plays he’s been making. Previous posts on 2019 kakko and av buch reaffirm this

 

[Edge]

The Rangers have one of the top prospects in the KHL and one of the best D prospects in the world playing in the SHL. Yet neither is viewed as the top organizational prospect and both will be a spot further down the list after the draft in October. That's melting my brain a little bit.

Consider for a second that if we can still count Kakko as a prospect, one of Lafreniere, Kakko or Shesterkin will, as a matter of coure, actually enter next season as the Rangers third ranked prospect.

Along those same lines, one of Kravtsov, Miller or Lunkqvist will have to be ranked sixth.

 

[Trxjw]

Consider for a second that if we can still consider Kakko a prospect, one of Lafreniere, Kakko or Shesterkin will, as a matter of coure, actually enter next season as the Rangers third ranked prospect.

Along those same lines, one of Kravtsov, Miller or Lunkqvist will have to be ranked sixth.

Just a pool full of potential franchise wingers, top-pair defensemen, and elite #1 goalies. No big deal.

 

[Edge]

Just a pool full of potential franchise wingers, top-pair defensemen, and elite #1 goalies. No big deal.

Well they're no Mackenzie Skapski, Robin Kovacs and Sean Day, that's for sure.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Well they're no Mackenzie Skapski, Robin Kovacs and Sean Day, that's for sure.

That dude owned the Sabres.

 

[Edge]

That dude owned the Sabres.

That kid was an underrated prospect who had a real shot until injuries took a wrecking ball to his progress.

 

[Levitate]

How are we gonna pay all these guys. We need to start trading some before their value takes a hit

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Consider for a second that if we can still count Kakko as a prospect, one of Lafreniere, Kakko or Shesterkin will, as a matter of coure, actually enter next season as the Rangers third ranked prospect.

Along those same lines, one of Kravtsov, Miller or Lunkqvist will have to be ranked sixth.

If Kakko counts, does Fox still count as a prospect? If so, I'd rank them like this:

1. Lafreniere
2. Kakko
3. Shestyorkin
4. Fox
5. Lundkvist
6. Kravtsov
7. Miller

Miller being our 7th best prospect is insanity. And beautiful

 

[JCProdigy]

Can’t handle a little commentary? Didn’t ride buses in the na south all those years just to be called a burner by some rando. I think we can all agree krav needs to put on a few more pounds between now and whenever the org is ready to give him the tap on the shoulder. Gotta be on his feet if he’s to replicate some of the high end plays he’s been making. Previous posts on 2019 kakko and av buch reaffirm this

wecannevergetagoodwindowseat

How are we gonna pay all these guys. We need to start trading some before their value takes a hit

Trade them for first round picks in the 2023, 2024, and 2025 drafts. We have the 2026 salary cap to think about.

 

[Edge]

If Kakko counts, does Fox still count as a prospect? If so, I'd rank them like this:

1. Lafreniere
2. Kakko
3. Shestyorkin
4. Fox
5. Lundkvist
6. Kravtsov
7. Miller

Miller being our 7th best prospect is insanity. And beautiful

Yes - Fox would count (forgot about him for a minute).

Yes - Having Lundkvist 5th and Miller 7th is the height of insanity.

Yes - Taking a player 22nd overall and still have him be (at best) your 8th ranked prospect is amazing.

Yes - We need to appreciate that one of Wall, Barron, Reunanen, Henriksson, Jones, Robertson, or our 2020 22nd overall pick might not even make our top 13 list and our current prospect depth is unlike anything this franchise has seen in about 30 years.

 

[Edge]

How are we gonna pay all these guys. We need to start trading some before their value takes a hit

What happens if we run out of jersey numbers to retire?!?!?!?!

 

[RickChartraw]

I hope that 007 has earned it.

 

[JCProdigy]

Yes - Fox would count (forgot about him for a minute).

Yes - Having Lundkvist 5th and Miller 7th is the height of insanity.

Yes - Taking a player 22nd overall and still have him be (at best) your 8th ranked prospect is amazing.

Yes - We need to appreciate that one of Wall, Barron, Reunanen, Henriksson, Jones, Robertson, or our 2020 22nd overall pick not even make our top 13 list is unlike anything this franchise has seen in about 30 years.

Just imagine 10 years ago saying that, in 2020, the Rangers would be the NY area franchise with the brightest possible future and it really isn't that close...

 

[Harbour Dog]

"The Rangers are a poor drafting team"

Is there anybody that still wants to die on that hill, or will we have to wait until our 3rd round pick from this year has a weak post-draft season?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

"The Rangers are a poor drafting team"

Is there anybody that still wants to die on that hill, or will we have to wait until our 3rd round pick from this year has a weak post-draft season?

You know who's bad at drafting that doesn't get mentioned enough? Joe Sakic and the Avalanche. They have not drafted a player outside the top-10 to suit up for 100 games for them since Tyson Barrie in 2009. That's 11 years.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Just imagine 10 years ago saying that, in 2020, the Rangers would be the NY area franchise with the brightest possible future and it really isn't that close...

let’s hope 10 years from now the Rangers have at least one Cup and still have 29 yr old Laf and Kakko playing at a high level.

 

[frozenrubber]

That kid was an underrated prospect who had a real shot until injuries took a wrecking ball to his progress.

I blame MacKenzie Catski

 

[Edge]

You know who's bad at drafting that doesn't get mentioned enough? Joe Sakic and the Avalanche. They have not drafted a player outside the top-10 to suit up for 100 games for them since Tyson Barrie in 2009. That's 11 years.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sakic gets a pass on a lot of things because he is well-liked in the NHL and beloved in Colorado. But this team has downright sucked outside the first round and has really built it's system on a number of top 10 or top 12 picks.