Vinny for Briere straight up?

[Qyburn]

If you could, would you trade Vincent Lecavalier for Daniel Briere?

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[Random Forest]

If that's the ONLY offer on the table for Lecavalier, I'd take it, but I'd rather take a late pick than have $4m being held hostage on our cap. And I think we can get a pick at the very least.

So I don't know how to answer here.

 

[Jtown]

1 year of briere or 4 more more of vinny? Easiest decision ever.

 

[Qyburn]

I wanted to gauge if people really thought Vinny's failures were due to an injury by giving them a difficult option. Hopefully we'll see.

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

1 year of briere or 4 more more of vinny? Easiest decision ever.

that about sums it up.

 

[Random Forest]

I wanted to gauge if people really thought Vinny's failures were due to an injury by giving them a difficult option. Hopefully we'll see.

To be fair, there are people (such as myself) who don't believe Vinny is done or useless. His start to the season was encouraging, and injuries certainly derailed him-- it's just a matter of fit. He just has no role on this team.

So people either believe that he's an awful player now or that he just had a bad year but doesn't fit on the team. So no matter which camp you're in, you want him out.

 

[Ryker]

Haha, **** no. **** no.

 

[Garbage Goal]

This should be very easily yes for just about anyone I think. Briere has one year left at four mil. Lecavalier has four years left at 4.5 mil. Briere has a one year contract at this point at a lower cap hit. Lecavalier just flat-out has a bad contract that it would either take work to get rid of. Hextall wants Lecavalier out and Lecavalier is open to that if the team is right so it's not as if we have a reason to hold on to him at all anymore.

With that said it won't happen though. The Flyers bought out Briere, they're not going to go and trade for him a year later. It just looks bad, is an awkward situation, and doesn't make a ton of sense.

 

[Jack Straw]

I voted no but didn't realize Briere's contract situation. So I would change my vote to yes. Although I think I would rather get a draft pick for Vinny if possible.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

No !!!!

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I would, depending on what the other offers were.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Vinny very well could bounce back. But back issues at his age are troubling. If he had any other sort of issue I'd be more willing to give him another shot, but I'm really wary of the guy at this point.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

I would do this easily.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Vinny very well could bounce back. But back issues at his age are troubling. If he had any other sort of issue I'd be more willing to give him another shot, but I'm really wary of the guy at this point.

Whoa! Never thought I'd hear you say that 30+ year old could bounce back!

 

[Beef Invictus]

Whoa! Never thought I'd hear you say that 30+ year old could bounce back!

That's because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of our stance on older players?

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

That's because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of our stance on older players?

I'd say it is more likely because whenever I suggest a veteran will have a bounce back year, it is scoffed at by many posters (even in the Phillies thread).

 

[Garbage Goal]

There's a reason players Vinnys age don't get expected to bounce back. It's because they lose durability often enough and the signs of regression are usually more clear. It's an old age for hockey.

 

[FlyersFan61290]

Vinny struggled from injuries I'm sure but given his recent injury history, the fact that he's got 4 yrs left and that he doesn't fit the team very well this is an easy yes for me.

 

[Firehockey]

Vinny > Briere
1y > 4y

though choice

 

[Beef Invictus]

I'd say it is more likely because whenever I suggest a veteran will have a bounce back year, it is scoffed at by many posters (even in the Phillies thread).

It's one thing if it's someone like Briere who is clearly declining naturally. Vinny's down year was very clearly caused by an injury. It's possible that he will be healthier and improve relative to what we saw, but I wouldn't expect him to be fantastic. Since it's a back injury and he's no spring chicken, it's also possible he won't improve much.

It all depends on the situation. Perhaps you are just supporting older players in a poor situation.

 

[TheDrizzle81]

We can't reacquire Briere because we bought him out right?

 

[Beef Invictus]

We can't reacquire Briere because we bought him out right?

That only lasts for a year. I think.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

That only lasts for a year. I think.

Yeah the ban gets lifted on the 18th of June.

 

[Bryz4shiz]

Briere easily. Shorter contract, does **** in the playoffs, and was put in a worse position than Vinny as far as ice-time, zone starts, and quality of competition last year.