Friedman: Vince Dunn available, Blues looking for a first round pick

[Paralyzer008]

Both Elliotte Friedman in 30 Thoughts and Frank Seravalli on Insider Trading say Vince Dunn could be had out of St. Louis - healthy scratch tonight.

Friedman believes St. Louis was looking for a 1st rounder in return.

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Vince Dunn was off the second power play in St. Louis’s morning skate Tuesday at Vegas. Coach Craig Berube would not reveal his lineup, but will that mean a healthy scratch?
Dunn has had a rough start, but his talent is respected. St. Louis had a lot of trade talks about him in the summer before signing him. They are believed to be looking for a first rounder

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[MMC]

 

[CupInSIX]

Who's going to pay a 1st for an underwhelm-

wait that's JR's music!

 

[Empoleon8771]

"I want a first round pick for a player I'm healthy scratching!"

Really convincing sales pitch there

 

[Djp]

1st round pick by Seattle in the ED goes to St. Louis?

 

[MasterMatt25]

"I want a first round pick for a player I'm healthy scratching!"

Really convincing sales pitch there

It's to prevent him from getting hurt

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Kulak + 2nd or conditional first depending how far Habs goes

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's to prevent him from getting hurt

I sincerely doubt that.

How often do players get healthy scratched when not right at the deadline? You almost never see players scratched this early into the year to "prevent him from getting hurt". What makes a lot more sense was that he was a -2 with less than 15 minutes in the last game, so he's getting healthy scratched for his play.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Kulak + 2nd

I'd do it, but I undervalue Kulak at times.

Habs could use Mete until Dunn clera quarantine

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Dunn dunn duuuuuuunn!



Habs happily offer a 1st for him

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I'd do it, but I undervalue Kulak at times.

Habs could use Mete until Dunn clera quarantine

Kulak and Dunn got the same salary cap
Says that Dunn is a healthy scratch and habs can afford to lose Kulak for a guy that move the puck

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

This is strange, wasn't he a stalwart part of the Blues championship team? That was like, 15 minutes ago.

 

[Arizonan God]

Am I crazy for thinking the Leafs should be all over this?

Obviously, they’d have to clear some cap space

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Am I crazy for thinking the Leafs should be all over this?

Obviously, they’d have to clear some cap space

I personally think the only thing the Leafs could do IMO, is upgrade what they already have - and I don't think Dunn-dunn-duuuunn is an upgrade at this point unless they absolutely want him in their bottom-pairing.

 

[rumrokh]

This is strange, wasn't he a stalwart part of the Blues championship team? That was like, 15 minutes ago.

No, he was a bottom-pairing guy who only played 15 and a half minutes a game in the playoffs. Pietrangelo, Parayko, and Bouwmeester did massive lifting and none of the other defensemen were "stalwart" in any meaning of the word. He was reliable and is a good puck-mover, but he was bad in the bubble and has started the season poorly, too.

Part of the problem right now is that the Blues have been trying to force a Krug-Parayko pairing despite the fact that Krug cannot and has never carried the defensive responsibility that Parayko must for the Blues. Krug was used in Boston much like the Blues have historically used Dunn. But with Krug-Parayko, it makes all of their defensive pairings vulnerable and they're easier to match up against. They need to keep Scandella and Parayko together and figure out if Krug-Faulk or Dunn-Faulk works. If the Blues don't trade Dunn right away, I expect Scandella-Parayko to get reunited long term and for Dunn's game to improve as everybody's roles make more sense.

 

[The Great Weal]

Kulak + 2nd

I'd make the pick a conditional too that becomes a 1st if the Habs go far or Dunn plays a certain amount.

 

[Arizonan God]

I think the Leafs are pretty set with Rielly and Muzzin in the left side. They also have Lehtonen, Sandin, etc. The only thing the Leafs could do IMO, is upgrade what they already have - and I don't think Dunn-dunn-duuuunn is an upgrade at this point unless you want him in your bottom-pairing.

Good points, my thinking was that with Dermott looking more and more like he’s on the outs, they may want to add some youth on the back end. They’re also going to lose someone in the expansion draft most likely.

 

[jetsv2]

The Jets should get him, would be an upgrade over a guy like Beaulieu or Forbort

 

[violaswallet]

"I want a first round pick for a player I'm healthy scratching!"

Really convincing sales pitch there

I hate to do it my friend but this sounds like a JR trade

 

[Zahra Starker]

Kulak + 2nd

Kulak has been playing really really well. You just want a shiny new toy.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

No, he was a bottom-pairing guy who only played 15 and a half minutes a game in the playoffs. Pietrangelo, Parayko, and Bouwmeester did massive lifting and none of the other defensemen were "stalwart" in any meaning of the word. He was reliable and is a good puck-mover, but he was bad in the bubble and has started the season poorly, too.

Part of the problem right now is that the Blues have been trying to force a Krug-Parayko pairing despite the fact that Krug cannot and has never carried the defensive responsibility that Parayko must for the Blues. Krug was used in Boston much like the Blues have historically used Dunn. But with Krug-Parayko, it makes all of their defensive pairings vulnerable and they're easier to match up against. They need to keep Scandella and Parayko together and figure out if Krug-Faulk or Dunn-Faulk works. If the Blues don't trade Dunn right away, I expect Scandella-Parayko to get reunited long term and for Dunn's game to improve as everybody's roles make more sense.

I thought Dunn was on the second pair of the Blues championship team with Parayko..

If it wasn't him what are the pairings?

Curious to know, thx.

 

[BlueDream]

Good. He can skate and move the puck but is trash defensively. Now that we have Krug, and Perunovich on the way, Dunn is the odd man out.

I still think he can help a team that needs a PMD.

 

[The Great Weal]

Kulak has been playing really really well. You just want a shiny new toy.

I want someone that we can trust more than 13 minutes a game if an injury occurs.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Both Elliotte Friedman in 30 Thoughts and Frank Seravalli on Insider Trading say Vince Dunn could be had out of St. Louis - healthy scratch tonight.

Friedman believes St. Louis was hoping for a 1st rounder in return.

31 Thoughts: How the Dubois-Laine trade finally came together

After that performance in his last game it would be more like adding a 1st (it's a joke, STL fans... don't get upset...


it would only take a 2nd)

 

[datsyukfan]

How would blues fans feel about a guy like Nemeth @5o % retained + 2nd round pick for Dunn from Detroit. Makes a lot of sense for the wings as they have seider and Hronek on the Right side going forward so Dunn could slot into a top 4 spot with one of those two