VIII. General Stars Talk Can't Stop, Won't Stop

[Noodletoro]

Buy the lump of **** out.

Although it still very possible we buy out both, Horcoff seems like a more likely candidate for a compliance buyout. Horcoff has a $5.5 cap hit but is only getting payed $3 next year. Far too much tied up in a 4th line player. Spending $3 million to unlock $5.5 in cap space seems like a no brainer.

 

[Gobo]

Say whaaaat

[NHL]462724[/NHL]

Just was lurking. But had to post, this is one of the coolest NHL-related team vids I have ever seen. Probably the best tbh.

 

[StarsFan74]

Although it still very possible we buy out both, Horcoff seems like a more likely candidate for a compliance buyout. Horcoff has a $5.5 cap hit but is only getting payed $3 next year. Far too much tied up in a 4th line player. Spending $3 million to unlock $5.5 in cap space seems like a no brainer.

I'd buy both of them out if I could but, for what its worth, Horcoff's position is a little harder to replace I'd say. That said, I still wonder what Nill was thinking trading for Horcoff especially when Grabovski, who was bought out a day before, was available.

 

[NFKappaB]

Our defense is absolutely brutal, my god Goligoski....

Make some trades Nill, and do it sooner rather than later. Call up Oleksiak, put Connauton in, we need change in the back end.

 

[glovesave_35]

That said, I still wonder what Nill was thinking trading for Horcoff especially when Grabovski, who was bought out a day before, was available.

The acquisition of Horcoff, especially at the expense of adding a talented player like Grabovski, has been his worst move by far. Given the history between Nill and Horcoff and Horcoff's recent seasons, the whole thing smacks of giving a guy he likes a chance to move on from a bad situation. Also, the whole veteran leadership angle. Unfortunately, Horcoff has just been a completely average/so-so player incapable of playing the center position anymore; so slow on his feet and his hands match his feet.

 

[ElGuapo]

No goalie. Throw a puck bucket in front of the net tonight and tell the Ducks they get credit for two goals if they shoot into the bucket instead of the net.

 

[StarsFan74]

The acquisition of Horcoff, especially at the expense of adding a talented player like Grabovski, has been his worst move by far. Given the history between Nill and Horcoff and Horcoff's recent seasons, the whole thing smacks of giving a guy he likes a chance to move on from a bad situation. Also, the whole veteran leadership angle. Unfortunately, Horcoff has just been a completely average/so-so player incapable of playing the center position anymore; so slow on his feet and his hands match his feet.

I understand it is hard for GMs not to be biased about players they know, but jeez...a little pow-wow with the pro-scouts would be welcome.

 

[Elysian]

We really need a 1A/1B goalie situation... We just can't get by on a mediocre backup, we need a Belfour/Turco type situation. Campbell can't progress fast enough.

 

[piqued]

We really need a 1A/1B goalie situation... We just can't get by on a mediocre backup, we need a Belfour/Turco type situation. Campbell can't progress fast enough.

And yet last season was spent apparently trying to prepare Nilstorp more than Campbell.

 

[Bjorn Le]

It's time for Campbell to get a start.

 

[KiedisA]

The next two are 100% must wins.. Kinda good thing that the Calgary game isn't until thursday night..

 

[MBTendy]

There is no way Ruff keeps the lines the same right? I think it's safe to say Ruff and Nill were patient enough and it's time to react NOW (and by react I mean change up the lines etc).

 

[Sports]

Having Kari in front of that defense is a finish just outside playoffs just waiting to happen- at best. He'll keep us either middling in mediocrity or from the pick the team in front of him deserves; whichever way you choose to look at it.

 

[Hull Fan]

Only decent thing was the behind the scenes series on NHL on the Fly.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

Having Kari in front of that defense is a finish just outside playoffs just waiting to happen- at best. He'll keep us either middling in mediocrity or from the pick the team in front of him deserves; whichever way you choose to look at it.

Bingo.

 

[Satan]

"There's a New Star Rising in Dallas, Texas"

*everyone in the arena bursts out in laughter"


*Montage of all the feats that Alex Chiasson has done comes on like creating fire and also turning wine into blood*

 

[Hull Fan]

Having Kari in front of that defense is a finish just outside playoffs just waiting to happen- at best. He'll keep us either middling in mediocrity or from the pick the team in front of him deserves; whichever way you choose to look at it.

I really want off this ride.

 

[Pohlow]

I really don't even know how we can get out of this. What trade/trades can we forge to fix our 3rd line and god awful defense? We have too many people on the team who are honestly negative value. Gonchar/Goligoski/Horcoff/(maybe) Cole. With a healthy Kari, we are only a bottom 8-12 or so team, not the bottom 5 we need to have actual progress sooner rather than a lot later.

I don't know, this season just feels kinda hopeless. "But it's only 8 games in!" Yeah, and so far we have destroyed our prize goalie prospect's debut (he already had huge confidence issues), we have had one honest goal from our bottom 6 in even strength play, and our defense is worse than ever.

The only light in this darkness is the ages of Nich, Seguin, Benn, and Chiasson. Our top 6 looks very strong, and the only one leaving any time soon is Whitney.

I just can't see the season being any different than the start of this season, other thank Kari coming back and stealing a few games. But does that honestly help the team? Another year of a mediocre pick, just barely missing the playoffs? I don't know.

 

[mc3488]

Get rid of goligoski, gonchar, and horcoff and bring up the younng guns

 

[oconnor9sean]

Honestly, can we put Gonchar on waivers? If he clears and we send him to the AHL, he'll bolt for Russia and we'll be off the hook with him. Is there anything special about the 35+ rule regarding that?

 

[Rune Forumwalker]

Eh, is it really surprising what is being seen out there? This was always going to be another development year for the kids.

A small trade to get rid of a d-man would be nice though. It's ridiculous to think about how many D the NHL and AHL teams both have.

 

[txomisc]

Eh, is it really surprising what is being seen out there? This was always going to be another development year for the kids.

A small trade to get rid of a d-man would be nice though. It's ridiculous to think about how many D the NHL and AHL teams both have.

Well no its not surprising that they are a mediocre team, but it is surprising how many of the mistakes are coming from veteran players.

 

[Frozen Failure]

We can shelter one or two D-men. Not 4.

 

[Hull Fan]

Surprising that they struggle? No. Surprising who's struggling? Yes.

I honestly didn't expect Gonchar to be this bad. Nor Goligoski for that matter. He wasn't great last year but at least he generated offense and collected points. I thought Horcoff would be a guy on the 4th line not a minute eater who takes penalties, night in and night out. Heck I hoped Cole would show his pre-season form instead of his version of suck like last season.

I didn't expect Dillon to fall this far off. I absolutely did not expect Nichushkin to be buried on the 3rd line after getting consistent top six ice time in preseason. And finally I expected Ruff to actually change things up when it's not working and he really hasn't.

So no I did not expect this. Even last year when we struggled I don't remember a ton of games outside of Chicago where we just basically quit half way through.

 

[Sports]

Wouldn't get your hopes up. They aren't going to give Gonchar 10 mil. and then just waive him 8 games in without at least scratching him first.