sawchuk1971
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Hockey Fights: Video Goes Viral After SJHL Player Gets Suspended For Goalie Hit
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League expulsion:
Team expulsion:
And of course, the forced 'heartfelt' apology:
Team expulsion:
And of course, the forced 'heartfelt' apology:
sawchuk1971
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Your Boy Troy
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If you want play the puck that far from your crease...
An unwise video to upload in hindsight, but I don't want see this kid's potential collegiate career jeopardize.
An unwise video to upload in hindsight, but I don't want see this kid's potential collegiate career jeopardize.
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LT
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As opposed to the goalie’s career being jeopardized by the hit?
way to ruin your season before October 
Your Boy Troy
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Once you leave the crease in attempt to nullify a breakaway opportunity, yes you should be hit and hit hard. It is one of the most anti-climatic plays that can occur during a game.
LT
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So you're suggesting the second goalies leave the crease, they can be trucked like this?
If you honestly think that there's no point to even having this argument.
If you honestly think that there's no point to even having this argument.
Your Boy Troy
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If they are that far from the crease, absolutely. If they are behind the net playing the puck, no.
bucks_oil
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The goalie had already played the puck. Just because he's outside the crease doesn't mean he's fair game to headshot or to hit late without the puck. Yes, you can make body contact when he has the puck... same as any player, but that's NOT what this is about.
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bucks_oil
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"Fair Game" means they can be treated like any other player at that point.
It does not mean head-shot (never ok for any player)
It does not mean hit after playing the puck (also never ok for any player)
This was an obvious head shot and a border-line late hit.
It amazes me how many people don't have the basic common sense to understand what "fair game" means in this sense. It also comes out on the goalie interference piece... the number of times guys argue it's "ok" to trip or interfere with a player in front of the net who doesn't have the puck, just because he's a goalie... you treat them the same... which means the same rules still apply.
Your Boy Troy
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Cogent point. I don't believe that the hit was late, though the goalie did release the puck prior to contact; makes bad optics. I'm just contingent that hitting goalies under similar circumstances would deter them from playing the puck that far out from their crease.
There are many instances where goalies are vulnerable and should be protected from any deliberate contact. In this specific example, I believe that the goalie should be fair game. It may come across as archaic, but I think it is completely unfair for the skater not to be given an opportunity for a breakaway.
tarheelhockey
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Even if it weren't a goalie, that's still charging. He takes 10-11 strides before the hit, which is juuuuuuuust a bit beyond the 2-stride standard.
Assuming they're using the Hockey Canada rulebook, the fact that it was a charge on a goalie makes it an automatic major and game misconduct. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Every player on the ice should know that you can't outright bodycheck a goalie, anywhere, for any reason, let alone charge him.
At no point in time was it EVER legal to throw this kind of hit, and for good reason.
Assuming they're using the Hockey Canada rulebook, the fact that it was a charge on a goalie makes it an automatic major and game misconduct. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Every player on the ice should know that you can't outright bodycheck a goalie, anywhere, for any reason, let alone charge him.
At no point in time was it EVER legal to throw this kind of hit, and for good reason.
PG Canuck
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Bragging about injuring a player is the most disgusting part of it.
bucks_oil
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First, thanks for your opening point. I do agree it is borderline late. But it isn't borderline high.
After that... You are right... it does come across as archaic. The goalie's job is to prevent the puck from going into the net. That also means prevent scoring chances. If a goalie, despite way heavier equipment and awkward skating ability (due to the pads) can outrace a player to the puck... he/she absolutely should do it.
And what do you mean fairness? The goalie is a player too... he's not allowed to play the game completely within the rules? And if he embarrasses the guy by winning the race, he risks getting tuned up?
Should the goalie also stop deflecting cross crease passes with his goal stick? Afterall, it isn't fair to the guy on the far side of the net who would otherwise have a tap in?
Not to mention safety... that hit was intent to injure (just look at the post-video).... and that has always been archaic. Modern goalie masks are designed to withstand 100mph slap shots and disperse it. That little "plate" on the back of their head does nothing more than hold the straps. This kid could have been killed... no exaggeration. Is that the type of deterrent you want so that your slow skating forward gets his chance on a breakaway?
I mean.... wow.
Suspension was warranted but releasing the kid seems a bit much. Goalies should not be skating that far out and he learned that the hard way.
He was released because of the video he released after bragging about it.
Complete loser.
bucks_oil
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Why? Because you say so?
That certainly isn't in the rules, never has been in my lifetime... in fact, the rule states the goalie CAN play the puck up to the redline. In this case, playing the puck prevented a breakaway. Which prevents a 50:50 chance at a goal against. Which is the goalie's job.
This player was the inferior athlete on this particular play. He got outraced to the puck... by a goalie
And he acted like a complete poor sport, not to mention a (clinically accurate) psychopath in the follow up video.Why? Because you say so?
That certainly isn't in the rules, never has been in my lifetime... in fact, the rule states the goalie CAN play the puck up to the redline. In this case, playing the puck prevented a breakaway. Which prevents a 50:50 chance at a goal against. Which is the goalie's job.
This player was the inferior athlete on this particular play. He got outraced to the puck... by a goalie
I didnt know about the poor sport stuff until well after I posted. It does provide a different context on the situation and yeah that player deserves a ban. Goalies skating out of the crease is fair game in my book until there is a written rule against it. Ill still stand by that remark.
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