Scroll up and read what @NEWing posted from The Athletic. Definitely seems like a culture Yzerman created, as far as getting guys to take good deals.
That’s on the player relationships. I get that. BriseBois was brought up as a GM under Yzerman, who had a ton more responsibility than a normal AGM. Especially this year when he’s the one calling the shots. That paired with his background, he’s perfectly capable of being more than competent, especially in negotiations, which he’s already had a role in. That’s all I’m saying.
I won’t discredit how important Yzerman is, but I also don’t think they are destined to fail because he’s leaving BriseBois in charge.
Probably not, BriseBois has been considered as one of the top GM candidates for a few years now (as far as AGM’s around the league).
Probably not, BriseBois has been considered as one of the top GM candidates for a few years now (as far as AGM’s around the league).
Probably not, BriseBois has been considered as one of the top GM candidates for a few years now (as far as AGM’s around the league).
Any assistant GM of a successful team is considered a top candidate. In fact, any people in management or coaching of a successful organization are considered great candidates. It's why from 2008-2015 the Red Wings bled talent. Other teams poached. It's time for Detroit to do the poaching.Probably not, BriseBois has been considered as one of the top GM candidates for a few years now (as far as AGM’s around the league).
How is that a problem? The whole point of running a team is to build a championship caliber roster. If you go out and win one (or more), then all the financial fallout in the world is worth it.BriseBois will jump in at the time of succes. Tampa guys are still taking discounts, because they haven't won anything and Yzerman bargain-negotiates those deals. When those guys become winners, you can read it here first, they will stop taking discounts. They want at least market value and then the cap edge is gone. No team can fight against that thing. It has happened for everybody. Chicago most perfect example.
How is that a problem? The whole point of running a team is to build a championship caliber roster. If you go out and win one (or more), then all the financial fallout in the world is worth it.
I would love to see a team as talented as Tampa Bay win it all this year, and partly because I'm a fan of their management.
Two first-round exits followed by two no post-season appearances in the last four years isn't what I'd call getting back to relevancy.Yeah, like people memeing Chicago's deals when they've won 3 cups and have already made huge strides to get back to relevancy.
Yeah, like people memeing Chicago's deals when they've won 3 cups and have already made huge strides to get back to relevancy.
Are you claiming they're no more relevant than 1-2 years ago? With a Hart Trophy caliber season from Kane and clearly a better collective response from the players with Colliton than with Quennville? Relevant <> contending, but the Hawks look much less "about to implode" than they did before.The Blackhawks are currently in last place in their division following two seasons of 1st round exits, missing the playoffs altogether last year, and will likely miss the playoffs again this year.
Are you claiming they're no more relevant than 1-2 years ago? With a Hart Trophy caliber season from Kane and clearly a better collective response from the players with Colliton than with Quennville? Relevant <> contending, but the Hawks look much less "about to implode" than they did before.
I have a weird proposal idea that would make sense for both sides. I grew up a wings fan,but started to follow the lightning when they were created near my hometown. So now I am lightning first then Detroit. I think Detroit could take on Callahan's contract for one year and possibly get yzerman as gm. It would benefit both teams tremendously. TBL may have to have add a 3rd or minor prospect.
I have a weird proposal idea that would make sense for both sides. I grew up a wings fan,but started to follow the lightning when they were created near my hometown. So now I am lightning first then Detroit. I think Detroit could take on Callahan's contract for one year and possibly get yzerman as gm. It would benefit both teams tremendously. TBL may have to have add a 3rd or minor prospect.
Here is the original claim (emphasis mine):I am. If you want to say Detroit's been irrelevant since 2012 (or whenever Nashville pantsed them), then Chicago certainly is irrelevant. Any remote "success" they have now is predicated on Patrick Kane doing Patrick Kane things. If he falls off to even a 70 point wing, they're DEAD.
Yeah, like people memeing Chicago's deals when they've won 3 cups and have already made huge strides to get back to relevancy.
Are you claiming they're no more relevant than 1-2 years ago? With a Hart Trophy caliber season from Kane and clearly a better collective response from the players with Colliton than with Quennville? Relevant <> contending, but the Hawks look much less "about to implode" than they did before.
I don't know how anyone can claim they are making strides to become relevant again when they have basically gotten progressively worse over the last 4 years. That doesn't make any sense.
Two years ago they were in the playoffs with the 3rd best record in the entire NHL. They have now been out of the playoffs for two straight seasons (likely anyways). What twisted logic are you using to come to the conclusion that a team (on pace for) a last place finish of 83 points is more relevant than a team that finished 3rd in the NHL 2 years ago?
Again, even if that's true, this entire exchange began with something along the lines of, "Haha, Tampa's players are going to get expensive. Pretty soon they'll have several crazy contracts like Chicago."Chicago right now is trending more to be the 2012 Wings than a team on the rise.
Any assistant GM of a successful team is considered a top candidate. In fact, any people in management or coaching of a successful organization are considered great candidates. It's why from 2008-2015 the Red Wings bled talent. Other teams poached. It's time for Detroit to do the poaching.
this.
paul fenton looked like a great GM candidate. but now he looks like a moron GM, lol.