Jussi
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Key word was "most"
The ones they do hate, tend to be with good reason, such as the F4 movies, the 3rd X-Men movie and Apocalypse.
Key word was "most"
The first act is terribly boring with weird tonal shifts. Once Venom arrives the movie becomes really fun but not a great movie.
It's more of a fun movie then a good movie. Certainly watchable.
I haven't seen the movie yet - but Ruz Ahmed is a great actor and Michelle Williams is very well known.Saw it last night. It was good, but not great. Story line was ok, but lacking. Hardy was great though. My only real gripe with the movie was aside from Hardy, who the hell was the rest of the cast?
I'll give it a shot:
18. Doctor Strange
17. Thor: The Dark World
16. Iron Man 3
15. The Incredible Hulk
14. Iron Man 2
Bottom tier, didn't really care for any of these. Likely won't watch again.
13. Black Panther (Don't get the hype with this one, saw it this weekend and was a really average movie)
12. Ant-Man
<---------------------VENOM goes here, I think
11. Thor
10. Iron Man
Decent movies, but none of them really shone for me.
9. Avengers: Age of Ultron
8. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2
Great tier, watched these a few times.
6. Spider-Man: Homecoming
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
4. The Avengers
3. Thor: Ragnarok
2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
1. Captain America: Civil War
Best of the bunch. I'm a really big fan of any of the movies with Cap, as I think he is just the best character they've made. I probably have Spiderman higher than most, but I really enjoyed that movie and Keaton was the best villain we've seen in the MCU in my opinion.
So, went and saw this on the weekend... It wasn't at all as bad as I expected. Tom Hardy's accent bothered me less than I thought it would based on the trailers. The interactions between Eddie Brock and Venom were pretty good for the most part. I would have liked it if it were a bit more gritty and dark (TM), rather than trying to add so much comic relief that I don't think was needed. The villain was pretty forgettable (which is a big factor for me), but after credits scene basically locked me in to seeing the sequel. I think if the villain was better/more complex and they found more actual screentime for Venom, this could have been a pretty decent flick.
Another thing that I took issue with was (spoiler):
My main gripe would have to be how quickly the Venom symbiote goes from "here to eat your population, you are vessel" to "I like you Eddie, we are partners" for no apparent reason. It didn't bother me as much while watching, but something that stood out as a bit of a what-the-hell when I was reflecting on the movie some more.
Personally I would put it at the high end of the middle of the pack for my ranking of Marvel movies. Probably just above Ant-man and Black Panther. My rankings below:
I think if I revised it, I would move it up 4-5 spots. Certainly above some of the Thor and Iron Man sequels. It wasn't one of my favourites though.Surprised you put Doctor Strange that low on your list. It's a good movie.
So, went and saw this on the weekend... It wasn't at all as bad as I expected. Tom Hardy's accent bothered me less than I thought it would based on the trailers. The interactions between Eddie Brock and Venom were pretty good for the most part. I would have liked it if it were a bit more gritty and dark (TM), rather than trying to add so much comic relief that I don't think was needed. The villain was pretty forgettable (which is a big factor for me), but after credits scene basically locked me in to seeing the sequel. I think if the villain was better/more complex and they found more actual screentime for Venom, this could have been a pretty decent flick.
Another thing that I took issue with was (spoiler):
My main gripe would have to be how quickly the Venom symbiote goes from "here to eat your population, you are vessel" to "I like you Eddie, we are partners" for no apparent reason. It didn't bother me as much while watching, but something that stood out as a bit of a what-the-hell when I was reflecting on the movie some more.
Personally I would put it at the high end of the middle of the pack for my ranking of Marvel movies. Probably just above Ant-man and Black Panther. My rankings below:
Homecoming was fine, the first Thor is ok but the second did more that underwhelm. Hulk movieS? There was only one and it had its moments but was not produced by Marvel even if now considered cannon in the MCU.Where did he say it was?
It's a Marvel movie. Do you consider Homecoming MCU, a great movie? Or the ****ty Thor ones? or the even ****tier Hulk movies?
Can't just discard bad movies as one offs "It's not part of the Universe!".
Movie was a lot of fun for me. Tom Hardy is a fantastic actor. Not sure why his accent bothered you ?So, went and saw this on the weekend... It wasn't at all as bad as I expected. Tom Hardy's accent bothered me less than I thought it would based on the trailers. The interactions between Eddie Brock and Venom were pretty good for the most part. I would have liked it if it were a bit more gritty and dark (TM), rather than trying to add so much comic relief that I don't think was needed. The villain was pretty forgettable (which is a big factor for me), but after credits scene basically locked me in to seeing the sequel. I think if the villain was better/more complex and they found more actual screentime for Venom, this could have been a pretty decent flick.
Another thing that I took issue with was (spoiler):
My main gripe would have to be how quickly the Venom symbiote goes from "here to eat your population, you are vessel" to "I like you Eddie, we are partners" for no apparent reason. It didn't bother me as much while watching, but something that stood out as a bit of a what-the-hell when I was reflecting on the movie some more.
Personally I would put it at the high end of the middle of the pack for my ranking of Marvel movies. Probably just above Ant-man and Black Panther. My rankings below:
It didn't both me when I actually saw the movies. However, when I watched the trailers it sounded like he had a learning disability and I thought it was going to drive me crazy. His inflection when speaking is all over the place. However, during the movie I thought it was fine and had no issues.Movie was a lot of fun for me. Tom Hardy is a fantastic actor. Not sure why his accent bothered you ?
I thought he was the reason this movie was the difference between average and pretty good.
Thought it was good. Venom himself was funny. Marvel once again shows the difference between them and DC.
Yes an no as Marvel did have some creative suggestions etc from what I understand. Rumor is that they are about to sign a new sharing agreement for the Spider-verse characters which would include Tom Holland's Spider-Man appearing in a future Venom movie etc. Holland also made a boo-boo again letting it slip that Spider-Man would have a third solo movie during an interview. Before he mentioned it the agreement only covered Far From Home and not a third one.This wasn't Marvel Studios. It's Marvel licensed by Sony.