Rumor: Vegas looking to trade Nikita Gusev. Gusev asking for $4m per year.

[780il]

Just trade him to Edmonton ffs.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Too lazy to look up season opener. September

No, the season starts in October. But why would he wait until it starts in order to sign a contract?

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Just trade him to Edmonton ffs.

Vegas is trying to free up cap space so any Gusev trade would involve another contract as well, Edmonton doesn't have room for Gusev let alone another contract....hope this helps for your future wants!!!

 

[theslatcher]

Vegas is trying to free up cap space so any Gusev trade would involve another contract as well, Edmonton doesn't have room for Gusev let alone another contract....hope this helps for your future wants!!!

Vegas doesn't need to clear up cap space unless they keep Gusev for more than 2.5M.

 

[McSuper]

Edmonton’s 2020 1st plus Brodziak to free up some cap space . Brodziak can be buried in the A . So he doesn’t hurt Vegas cap . We would still need to move Gagner but it would really fix Edmonton’s top 6

Draisaitl McDavid Kassian
Gusev RNH Neal
Nygard Granlund Chiasson
Khaira Cave/Haas Archibald

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Vegas doesn't need to clear up cap space unless they keep Gusev for more than 2.5M.

I see math and common sense wasn't your best subjects in school, before you mention Clarkson's LTIR, it can't be used until the season starts. Also should be fun watching them start the season with 5 Dman!

 

[Lunatik]

I see math and common sense wasn't your best subjects in school, before you mention Clarkson's LTIR, it can't be used until the season starts. Also should be fun watching them start the season with 5 Dman!

There is summer LTIR as well. He can be placed on LTIR the day prior to the season starting, The difference between the two being the amount Vegas is over, is all they can use in LTIR exception for his contract for the season. Where as if they wait until the first day, they can use the full amount at any given time.

 

[Elliman]

You’d be nuts to turn down C Kreider, M Staal, K Shattenkirk, B Smith, V Namestinkov and R Strome for Gusev and a 6th.

Don’t you worry your lil head about salaries and the cap. Just look at all those extra bodies and playoff experience that will bring you the cup in no time at all. Gary will probably even award you the cup by the all star game.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

There is summer LTIR as well. He can be placed on LTIR the day prior to the season starting, The difference between the two being the amount Vegas is over, is all they can use in LTIR exception for his contract for the season. Where as if they wait until the first day, they can use the full amount at any given time.

I get that but it's all moot as 1) Gusev won't sign for $2.5m and 2) they need money for at least one more Dman.

I seriously have never seen a team in so much cap trouble in any sport...ever!

 

[MichaelFarrell]

I think Colorado should trade for him.

Gusev-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Landeskog-Kadri-Jost
Donskoi-Compher-Burakovsky
Wilson-Bellemare-Calvert

They have the assets and cap to get him and that offense would be great.

 

[Lunatik]

I get that but it's all moot as 1) Gusev won't sign for $2.5m and 2) they need money for at least one more Dman.

I seriously have never seen a team in so much cap trouble in any sport...ever!

It's not moot because you claimed they couldn't put him on LTIR until the season started. Gusev likely won't be a Knight this coming season, the only way he is, is if the Knights can find a taker for Cody Eakin.

 

[theslatcher]

I see math and common sense wasn't your best subjects in school, before you mention Clarkson's LTIR, it can't be used until the season starts. Also should be fun watching them start the season with 5 Dman!

I see you don't know anything about LTIR, good for you!

Maybe try and actually research what you're talking about before writing shit like that.

 

[JeremyTB]

A team entering only their 3rd season is over the cap. Remember when expansion teams use to have a roster filled with 3rd line talent and bottom pair dmen?

 

[Nolan11]

No, the season starts in October. But why would he wait until it starts in order to sign a contract?

If we had clarkson we would have to be cap compliant with his salary for season opener. Once clarkson is back on ltir then we could sign him for 4 M (his rumored ask). He would do it if everything negotiated ahead of time and he trusted DW. He would then agree to wait until October.

Same scenario works for Vegas if the can dump Eakins or reeves and or others to get under cap that way instead.

 

[Blitz]

If we had clarkson we would have to be cap compliant with his salary for season opener. Once clarkson is back on ltir then we could sign him for 4 M (his rumored ask). He would do it if everything negotiated ahead of time and he trusted DW. He would then agree to wait until October.

Same scenario works for Vegas if the can dump Eakins or reeves and or others to get under cap that way instead.

Vegas will have $1.75M is cap space AFTER Clarkson is sent to LTIR. Even if you had a handshake deal w/ Gusev for $4M AAV to be signed on day 1 of the new league year, you still have to clear $2.25M - thereby opening up a hole somewhere else (Eakin @ #3C?, can't see anyone clamouring for Reaves TBH)... Also completely ignoring the fact that this team only has 5 NHL dmen on the roster, Gusev ok w/ 3rd pairing minutes, etc...

VGK have tons of forward depth, Way easier to deal his rights for D help or futures and drive on.

 

[SotasicA]

A team entering only their 3rd season is over the cap. Remember when expansion teams use to have a roster filled with 3rd line talent and bottom pair dmen?

Yes, but there also wasn't a cap back then, so expansion teams weren't really able to secure the services of good hockey players.

 

[Nolan11]

Vegas will have $1.75M is cap space AFTER Clarkson is sent to LTIR. Even if you had a handshake deal w/ Gusev for $4M AAV to be signed on day 1 of the new league year, you still have to clear $2.25M - thereby opening up a hole somewhere else (Eakin @ #3C?, can't see anyone clamouring for Reaves TBH)... Also completely ignoring the fact that this team only has 5 NHL dmen on the roster, Gusev ok w/ 3rd pairing minutes, etc...

VGK have tons of forward depth, Way easier to deal his rights for D help or futures and drive on.

You should still get under the cap with Clarkson's contract, before you put him on LTIR for day 1. One scenario to retain Gusev would be to:

Trade Eakin and Reeves to Colorado for Barberio and a 4th (a terrible return for still decent bottom sixers, but heck, you need the space). LTIR Clarkson on day 1 of season, sign Gusev to 4 x 4 and still have roughly 3M of LTIR space to sign a vet 7D.....

 

[GirardSpinorama]

You should still get under the cap with Clarkson's contract, before you put him on LTIR for day 1. One scenario to retain Gusev would be to:

Trade Eakin and Reeves to Colorado for Barberio and a 4th (a terrible return for still decent bottom sixers, but heck, you need the space). LTIR Clarkson on day 1 of season, sign Gusev to 4 x 4 and still have roughly 3M of LTIR space to sign a vet 7D.....

We dont have room for eakins and reeves, so no thank. You can keep them.

 

[theslatcher]

You should still get under the cap with Clarkson's contract, before you put him on LTIR for day 1. One scenario to retain Gusev would be to:

Trade Eakin and Reeves to Colorado for Barberio and a 4th (a terrible return for still decent bottom sixers, but heck, you need the space). LTIR Clarkson on day 1 of season, sign Gusev to 4 x 4 and still have roughly 3M of LTIR space to sign a vet 7D.....

Only one of Eakin, & Reaves will get traded. No reason to trade them both. Holden is gone no matter if it's by waivers, some GM looking at advanced stats, or having to find a team to take him for a mid-round/late-round pick.

7th D is set to be Engelland(will get around 40 games with a young guy taking the other 40), with most likely 2 young guys on the roster(Schuldt + Hague/Whitecloud if I had to guess, Schuldt needs to sign a new contract).

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

If im Gusev im not bluffing with the 4M demand.

- High-profile KHL guys have gotten paid in recent years so it's justified.

- Vegas is not the best team for NHL audition. To put up points you need to be stapled in an offensive role, but the Knights already have a top 6 with or without Gusev. So there's a risk involved that he's stuck on the 3rd line which is good for the team, but not for the player. It's also easy to look at how things went with Shipachyov and how quickly he was the odd man out. Different circumstance, but still there and something that's hard not to think about if your Gusev im sure.

- He's only able to keep the "mystery" of how his KHL performances translate to the NHL ice once. If he returns to the KHL for a year and puts up big point totals again, nothing really changes and teams will be interested next summer especially since they don't have to trade for him. There will be competition, which drives the price up and he'll get the money he wants on a short-term deal.

Signing a cheap deal to help out the team should not be in his interest right now, at least from the financial side of things.

KHL season starts 1st of September so have to think this gets solved in the next ~3-4 weeks.

 

[Brazen331]

Vegas will have $1.75M is cap space AFTER Clarkson is sent to LTIR. Even if you had a handshake deal w/ Gusev for $4M AAV to be signed on day 1 of the new league year, you still have to clear $2.25M - thereby opening up a hole somewhere else (Eakin @ #3C?, can't see anyone clamouring for Reaves TBH)... Also completely ignoring the fact that this team only has 5 NHL dmen on the roster, Gusev ok w/ 3rd pairing minutes, etc...

VGK have tons of forward depth, Way easier to deal his rights for D help or futures and drive on.

I agree with your second paragraph. What Vegas really needs is help on the blue line.

But you still have the unknown factor with Gusev which brings his trade value down. Perhaps they need to package both Eakin and Gusev for a solid defender they can pair with either Schmidt or Theodore.

That quite frankly, would make Vegas more difficult to beat than adding another skilled winger.