Confirmed with Link: Vatanen to CAR for Janne Kuokkanen, Frederik Claesson and conditional 4th rounder

[Guttersniped]

4 game so far for Claesson ...do you guys think he is a keeper?

He’s a UFA so he’s probably gone unless they want him as a vet in Bing.

Cap Friendly had Mermis listed as a RFA which confused the hell out of me but they changed him to a UFA. I’m more curious about him as a potential extra defenseman.

 

[Mr Bojanglez]

So how does this work?

*Conditions: New Jersey receives a 2020 4th round pick if Vatanen plays in 5 regular-season games this season. The pick upgrades to a 2020 3rd round pick if Vatanen plays in 12 regular-season games this season, or if Carolina makes the playoffs and he plays in 70% of their playoff games.

I guess we hope he plays 70% of their playoff games ?

 

[Billdo]

So how does this work?

*Conditions: New Jersey receives a 2020 4th round pick if Vatanen plays in 5 regular-season games this season. The pick upgrades to a 2020 3rd round pick if Vatanen plays in 12 regular-season games this season, or if Carolina makes the playoffs and he plays in 70% of their playoff games.

I guess we hope he plays 70% of their playoff games ?

That's the hope at least on my end. I'm sure Carolina could try to argue against that if they chose to do so but they willingly traded for him knowing he was injured.

 

[Bleedred]

So how does this work?

*Conditions: New Jersey receives a 2020 4th round pick if Vatanen plays in 5 regular-season games this season. The pick upgrades to a 2020 3rd round pick if Vatanen plays in 12 regular-season games this season, or if Carolina makes the playoffs and he plays in 70% of their playoff games.

I guess we hope he plays 70% of their playoff games ?

He will have to play in 100% of their games. The Rags will knock Rawly out in their play-in game.

The NJD will get no picks from this trade. Fitz should have done better.

 

[Bleedred]

I saw confirmed with link and thought maybe an announcement was made on the season.

Been a while since we seen one of those confirmed with link.

 

[Darkauron]

Yeah this bump tricked me. Grr

 

[Team Concept]

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He will have to play in 100% of their games. The Rags will knock Rawly out in their play-in game.

The NJD will get no picks from this trade. Fitz should have done better.

Given that Vatanen was hurt throughout February I think Janne Kuokkanen was a decent return. I would project him as a 3rd line LW or C (possible replacement for Zajac) in a couple of years. He appears to be a defensively sound forward.

 

[Ripshot 43]

Given that Vatanen was hurt throughout February I think Janne Kuokkanen was a decent return. I would project him as a 3rd line LW or C (possible replacement for Zajac) in a couple of years. He appears to be a defensively sound forward.

Hes a mature prospect for sure so I am more than happy for the return due to Vats injury. I think he provides us with a good bottom 6 forward option.

 

[nugg]

So do we get a third if Carolina beats the Rangers in the play in and Vatanen plays all the playoff games?

 

[Darkauron]

Damn phantom bumps tricking me into thinking we did a trade!

 

[nugg]

Damn phantom bumps tricking me into thinking we did a trade!

LOL sorry about that, but I'd really like to know if we can get a third rounder. We have no 2nd or 3rd rounder otherwise. From what was written above it appears a 4th isn't even possible because there's no more regular season, and the play in isn't considered playoffs. So confusing.

 

[Devils731]

So do we get a third if Carolina beats the Rangers in the play in and Vatanen plays all the playoff games?

It seems the play-in games are going to be treated as their own thing, neither regular season nor playoffs but definitely not playoffs.

So we would need Carolina to win and then have Vatanen play 75%(I think?) of the playoff games.

If Carolina loses then it’s like Vatanen met none of the requirements.

 

[nugg]

It seems the play-in games are going to be treated as their own thing, neither regular season nor playoffs but definitely not playoffs.

So we would need Carolina to win and then have Vatanen play 75%(I think?) of the playoff games.

If Carolina loses then it’s like Vatanen met none of the requirements.

Sounds possible then, because we all know the Rangers will win the first pick.

 

[My3Sons]

Sounds possible then, because we all know the Rangers will win the first pick.

If there is one thing I am confident of it is that even if NYR gets Laf they will still find some way to screw it up. They will win a bit in the playoffs and the NJ fan base will be the butt of their fanbase’s jokes until they are in cap hell and are clutching their pearls over having to trade Trouba and Chytil and DeAngelo to sign Laf to his second contract at which point Panarin gets upset having to share the LW1 spotlight and video scouting reveals Shesterkin is vulnerable to near side blocker shots and the whole thing collapses on the precipice of actual success.

 

[DevilDog]

So either way I’m rooting for the Canes to beat the Rags. Not that I wasn’t already. Just nice to have some sort of skin in the game...

 

[Pitaya]

So either way I’m rooting for the Canes to beat the Rags. Not that I wasn’t already. Just nice to have some sort of skin in the game...

No no no no

As much as we want another higher pick you want to 100000000% root for the Rangers to WIN

we cannot allow them to win Lafreniere and their only chance to is if they lose to Carolina

We also want the Islanders to win their series as well

 

[Nico Hischier]

I can’t root for the rangers to win anything. Lose to Carolina. Lose in the lottery.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

I have really forgot about Kuokkonen as a potential breakout player for NJ. The odds that a 22 and under player breaks out for NJ is extremely high given the sheer amount of quality prospects. Sure some are less likely but you have the following who could hypotetically produce at the NHL level this year with a good summer.

Kuokkanen
Boqvist
Foote
McLeod
Anderson
Merkley
Zetterlund
Maltsev

 

[JimEIV]

Wrong Thread. Sorry.

 

[Team Concept]

Actually, that was a great article. I am debating now if I should read the 381 comments attached to the article.

 

[Emperoreddy]

We dont really want Carolina to get Laffy either.

Ideally he goes to Chicago or something.

 

[Bleedred]

I think the Rangers will beat the Canes, but don’t make that an official prediction yet.

I need to know who’s playing for teams before I start predicting the play-in rounds or the round robin, which I don’t even know if I’ll take a stab at predicting the round robin thing.

I go Rangers over Canes if not mostly because Shesterkin (and probably even Georgiev too) is better than Mrazek. Current Lundqvist may or may not be, but I doubt he plays.

I don’t foresee a long playoffs for the Rangers, as they’re not a very good team and wouldn’t have gotten in over an 82 game season, but this is where we are with the 24 team playoff. There’s gonna be a couple teams that wouldn’t even be in the playoffs if the season had went in its entirety that are going to win a round.

 

[Nubmer6]

I go Rangers over Canes if not mostly because Shesterkin (and probably even Georgiev too) is better than Mrazek. Current Lundqvist may or may not be, but I doubt he plays.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE GOALIES WITH YOU ISN'T IT?!?!?!?!?

 

[Bleedred]

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE GOALIES WITH YOU ISN'T IT?!?!?!?!?

I just don’t trust Mrazek.

I mean, doesn’t mean he can’t win, but I just don’t trust him.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

I just don’t trust Mrazek.

I mean, doesn’t mean he can’t win, but I just don’t trust him.

You don't even know if they go with Shesterkin. Lundqvist could very easily get the nod, although it should be Igor. Hopefully Lundqvist ***** them one more time.