Holland is 63 right now, turning 64 late in the year. Who knows what he wants to do going forward. Does he wish to transition to the new role with Detroit to finish his career or does he yearn for a GM role somewhere else? And how long does he wish to continue to work for? Holland would turn 66 in 2021, when Seattle starts playing.
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Holland is 63 right now, turning 64 late in the year. Who knows what he wants to do going forward. Does he wish to transition to the new role with Detroit to finish his career or does he yearn for a GM role somewhere else? And how long does he wish to continue to work for? Holland would turn 66 in 2021, when Seattle starts playing.
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Those dean Lombardi contracts make me sick. Especially the self negotiated Dustin Brown contract
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Why do people keep saying ownership needs to offer “stupid money” as if it should be an impediment? Only in recent years have established coaches’ salary ballooned. Executive salaries haven’t caught up. We aren’t talking about $20 million a year here. A few years ago I think the average was $1.5M to $2M a year. If it takes $4-6M a year to attract the guy you want over as opposed to $3M a year it’s stupid not to pay the price.
Are you sure. Lou Lam is reported to have signed with Toronto for 6 years for $33 million back in 2015. Can see the experienced guys like that making $5-$6 million, just like the high priced coaches of Babcock, Q, AV, Trotz.
I would suspect Holland would command the $5-$6 million range.
Really, it's up to him to decide what he wants to do. If he really wants to be a GM there will be offers for him. If he prefers to wind it down, he can stay in Detroit.
How long does he wish to work for? Lou Lam is 75 for example. Does he want to see the rewards for his work before he retires? If he goes until he's 70, that gives the Seattle franchise like 4-5 seasons of actual play before he hits that mark, even though he would have spent an extra 2 years setting everything up. Or he could sign on with an existing team and see the results of his moves sooner.
I doubt money is going to change what he wants to do. It may change where he chooses to do what he wants to do. But, really, he has more than enough money at this point in his life. I think it comes down to challenges going forward.
I hope it’s Francis. He seems smart honestly.
What mistakes did he make in Carolina? He basically built their current team that would be even better if Dundon didn’t make that Lindholm trade.
The only thing I can think of is the Darling contract.
What mistakes did he make in Carolina? He basically built their current team that would be even better if Dundon didn’t make that Lindholm trade.
The only thing I can think of is the Darling contract.
Francis has an ownership stake with Carolina. He can’t work for another team until that changes.
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Botchford spoke about this on the latest pat-cast. He said some GM's make less then a million, some apparently as low as 400k.
He speculated that Jim Benning makes about a million per. I imagine someone with a bit of experience and clout pulls in more and maybe someone like John Chayka is on the lower end.
They brought up a good point about GM's making less then coaches and how that effects a coaches input on roster moves etc.
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Imagine having pretty much your entire d-core as 26 and younger.
they havent even added two of the top rookies in the AHL in Jake Bean and Martin Necas who both made the 2019 all rookie team.
I want that architect............. the one who believes in draft picks.
I havent even looked but Im guessing Carolina probably has more draft picks picks than Van this year.
they havent even added two of the top rookies in the AHL in Jake Bean and Martin Necas who both made the 2019 all rookie team.
I want that architect............. the one who believes in draft picks.
I havent even looked but Im guessing Carolina probably has more draft picks picks than Van this year.
I'm not as big of a fan of Francis as some here are. I'm not a fan of the patient do nothing approach like what the Jets did and simply make your draft picks while making very little moves to improve your team. Look at Francis' track record. If it wasn't for some late round picks panning out the Canes would likely miss the playoffs again.
I think the Canucks are in a similar situation to when Gillis was first hired. I think this team has the building block in places and would require some bold moves when the time is right. A GM/President like Francis who seemingly is afraid to make the big moves will not help the Canucks win IMO.
I'm not sure. Reportedly, Lou either for 3 years as a GM but there might have been extra term for him to mover up to an advisory role.
Regardless, my point doesn't change. I think it's stupid not to sign the President/GM you want because he will cost $5-6M a year vs you want vs $2-3M for someone else.
I think the Canucks are in a similar situation to when Gillis was first hired. I think this team has the building block in places and would require some bold moves when the time is right. A GM/President like Francis who seemingly is afraid to make the big moves will not help the Canucks win IMO.
I'm not sure. Reportedly, Lou either for 3 years as a GM but there might have been extra term for him to mover up to an advisory role.
Regardless, my point doesn't change. I think it's stupid not to sign the President/GM you want because he will cost $5-6M a year vs you want vs $2-3M for someone else.
There’s been no rumblings of anything at all. Looks more and more like it’s another year of bad July 1 contracts, inflated sweetheart deals with existing deteriorating vets, and ugly trades.
At least we can be in the running for #1 overall again.
At least we can be in the running for #1 overall again.
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He also has to operate under a Value Village budget. Course if Elmer has the same obstacle, we wouldn't have the Louis E.
My guess is they are waiting for Vegas to finish and will go hard after Kelly Mccrimon .
I'm sure they've also spoken to Kreuger Holland Lombardi
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Krueger seems more like an intelligent, progressive thinker. He’s essentially the anti Benning.
I’d be on board
I’d be on board
Disagree. We do not yet have the building blocks. We are far, far away from contention.
We have 4 players who could conceivably form part of the next core. Stretch it to 5 with Stecher if you want. And that's assuming Hughes turns into a stud, which isn't a guarantee. Pretty much everyone else on the roster has marginal value, is eminently replaceable, or is useless deadweight.
Gillis knew he was walking into a team with prime Sedins (which he negotiated sweetheart contracts for), and a burgeoning Kesler, Edler, and Bieksa. In addition to a legitimate top-four Salo. He also had, y'know, a HOF goalie between the pipes. Then he immediately added two top-six forwards in Demitra and Sundin, and an effective 3rd line center in Wellwood.
The Canucks do not have the blueline ready to go for it yet. Stecher is solid, and I believe in Hughes, but there was a certified top-four already locked-in. With the chronically injured, aging, and declining Tanev/Edler combo, we do not.
We (obviously) don't have HOF calibre goaltending.
Bo/Petey/Boeser as of now are not of the same calibre of the Sedins and Kesler in Gillis' first season. The support pieces Benning has added up front are mostly trash, and I have zero faith in his ability to actually add any useful complementary pieces.
Outside of signing Panarin or Karlsson, there isn't anything the Canucks as an organization can do, besides draft and wait.
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How do we know this..I am totally on board with bringing in some one with more brains then Benning..But is this just a rumor.Or are we stuck with Elmer for another few years..
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Ed Willis saying the Canucks might consider hiring Gillis again
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