Speculation: The Team Presidency Discussion Thread
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There is a difference in the Canucks speaking to Lombardi and being rebuffed multiple times by him and the Flyers rebuffing the Canucks’ request. That is where the reporting differs and consequently unclear. Of course from Aquilini’s perspective, the narrative that Lombardi turned down the Canucks multiple times would be seen as damaging to the Canucks’ brand.
Personally, unless Lombardi is paid very very well or is no longer interested in running a team, it is absolute stupidity for him to not have negotiated an out clause whereby another team looking for a GM or President of Hockey Operations can speak to him.
Between Holland, Francis, Lombardi, and Gillis, I rather have Gillis back although he is the only one without a Cup ring (Francis won as a player).
y2kcanucks
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It's very bizarre that a team would deny permission for an executive to speak to another team like that.
It’s one thing if it’s a younger executive who is on the way up and you see a future for that person in your organization. Like Jeff Gorton in NYR whom the rangers declined requests from other teams to interview for a GM role while Sather was in charge.
Lombardi is interesting given that Fletcher an experienced GM for the GM job so not as if the Flyers need Dean. That surprises me.
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I still want Mike Gillis back. He would be the best candidate. He knows the city, he knows how to acquire the pieces needed to create a cup contending team, he's forward thinking, he's grown a lot in knowledge (even from his GM of the year days, which is a scary thought). I would be willing to hand him the keys to this team for 10 years.
I'll take anyone with half a brain which is more than half of what we have now. I'm ready to be a happy fan again instead of feeling like I just watched a bad movie.
On the other hand I also seem to remember Aquilini denying that they had talked to anybody else when they were letting go of Nonis only to almost immediately hire Gillis.
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It seems bizarre because it's extremely unlikely. Lombardi has the profile to decide what he wants to do. If the Flyers denied permission it was at Lombardi's request.
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Or one can look at it as Fredo being a man of decisive action. No pondering a decision like Hamlet. He knew what he wanted and got it.
With his track record in SJ and LA he has the clout to turn down the Canucks and not have it be a negative for him. Not sure it makes sense for him to ask Philly to say no for him.
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It was a reported awhile back by Pierre LeBrun that in the time since he’s been fired as LA’s GM he has been approached by 4 teams including Ottawa. He’s also according to LeBrun committed to the Flyers org. and it was likely he’d be talking extension with Fletcher.
It's not unheard of but that usually involves a team having plans for said staff member such as in the case of Jeff Gorton and John Stevens. Elliotte Friedman did report previously that the contract Lombardi signed had no outs which if true is curious in of itself.
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Did you catch Gillis' recent radio interview? He basically said the only opportunity he'd return to the NHL for would have to involve total independence from ownership and no interference in his job. That's like him telling the Aquilini's to screw off. The only way I could possibly imagine him coming back is if ownership could somehow convince him (contractually or otherwise) that they'd take a step back from hockey ops. I can't really see any of that happening.
Megaterio Llamas
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Lombardi is not the Joel Quenneville of executives.
He'd be a good candidate maybe, but if he's out of the running, meh.
I'd like to know more about where Ralph Krueger stands. Wonder if he announces something after the first round is over, with the Canucks or otherwise. Would be weird if he just left Southampton without something in the NHL lined up.
He'd be a good candidate maybe, but if he's out of the running, meh.
I'd like to know more about where Ralph Krueger stands. Wonder if he announces something after the first round is over, with the Canucks or otherwise. Would be weird if he just left Southampton without something in the NHL lined up.
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Is Krueger the right person for the Canucks though? I suspect Ralph Krueger might be more inclined to chase big ticket free agents rather than go through a full rebuild. I don't follow the Premier League, but after reading this I'm not sure Krueger is the right fit.
Assessing the legacy left by Ralph Krueger’s Southampton chairmanship
y2kcanucks
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Dammit Jim!
I am not totally sure how I feel about him. The game has changed so much while he was with the Saints.
I want to start with a really smart exec and fill in the gaps where they exist. I want Gilman back as either President or GM. If there was a way to make it work with Ken Hollan, so much the better. We need an exec that can build out an organization and a coherent strategy. The 'hockey man' pieces can be hired after. Start with the brains first. More likely to hire good people around him.
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TruGr1t
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It sounds like Krueger is relatively highly regarded and could be pretty picky about where he lands. He's also already had a terrible time working for a gong-show organization in Edmonton. Why exactly would he come to Vancouver and do that whole rigmarole again with the Aquilinis?
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In Edmonton they relieved him of his job via Skype...a bit classless I think...No wonder he's done with them.
Why would anybody go through the whole rigmarole with the Aqualinis ?..Maybe they should just cut to the chase and pronounce the themselves as the new President.?
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a President of Hockey Ops doesn't run the day to day tasks of the team, they should be delegating the best people for those positions.
This is why I think Gillis would be the best, he can create the structure of the organization, hire the best people for those roles, and focus on improving the team outside of developing the players themselves. In the same manner, he employed sleep doctors, trainers, and nutritionists while he was here.
This is why I think Gillis would be the best, he can create the structure of the organization, hire the best people for those roles, and focus on improving the team outside of developing the players themselves. In the same manner, he employed sleep doctors, trainers, and nutritionists while he was here.
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