Proposal: (VAN/TOR) Jett Woo, Brendan Leipsic for Andreas Johnsson and Justin Holl

[ottomaddox]

Ultimately TOR needs a role player/agitator in their bottom 6. Leipsic is just right.

Holl is a good player and could add depth to VAN. There seems to be a major log jam on TOR's RHD now.

Johnsson is a struggling in a 4th line role but could be good for VAN in a more offensive role. He was a solid player for the Marlies last year and helped the team win the AHL championship.

Woo is the add on to even out this trade.

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[dangomon]

Have a feeling Van would want more for Woo, he isn't really an "add on". Leafs give up two scratched players, for one scratched player and a good prospect.

I'm high on Johnsson and he could be a stud, but hasn't proven much yet in the NHL.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Well, I like it for Toronto, but I just read in another thread that the Canucks are really high on Woo. But if Benning would do it, I am all for it!

 

[ottomaddox]

Have a feeling Van would want more for Woo, he isn't really an "add on". Leafs give up two scratched players, for one scratched player and a good prospect.

I'm high on Johnsson and he could be a stud, but hasn't proven much yet in the NHL.

Woo is a good add on because Johnsson and Holl both have higher ceilings than Leipsic.

 

[hotpaws]

Holl is a good player ? i guess you could say he's a good AHLer since that's where he's ever played and he 26 .

basically it's Johnson for Woo and i don't see why the nucks would do this

 

[ottomaddox]

Holl is a good player ? i guess you could say he's a good AHLer since that's where he's ever played and he 26 .

basically it's Johnson for Woo and i don't see why the nucks would do this

Holl is on his way up, but Oz is putting in some solid minutes now. Eventually TOR will bring up Liljegren. Holl should be an NHLer, but he is losing out because of TOR's depth.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Scraps for two decent pieces. Sigh...

Canucks say no quite comfortably.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Not a chance Vancouver does this.

 

[ottomaddox]

Scraps for two decent pieces. Sigh...

Canucks say no quite comfortably.

Scraps? You're ignoring recent history, and solid AHL careers.

 

[shortfuze]

Woo is a good add on because Johnsson and Holl both have higher ceilings than Leipsic.

Does Holl even have a ceiling?

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Scraps? You're ignoring recent history, and solid AHL careers.

My dude...

Leipsic himself has accomplished more at the NHL level than Johnsson. Nobody really cares what he did in the AHL on stacked, veteran, overpaid Marlie teams.

I wouldn’t trade Leipsic for Johnsson alone.

Then you’re adding 18 year old Jett Woo just drafted in the 2nd round for AHL fodder. Sorry, I get you’re a Leafs fan who thinks he is trending up, but literally every team in the league has “Holls” that are worth zilch. 26 year old minor league player. Zero value.

This is a bad trade, no other way around it.

 

[Leaf Fans]

My dude...

Leipsic himself has accomplished more at the NHL level than Johnsson. Nobody really cares what he did in the AHL on stacked, veteran, overpaid Marlie teams.

I wouldn’t trade Leipsic for Johnsson alone.

Then you’re adding 18 year old Jett Woo just drafted in the 2nd round for AHL fodder. Sorry, I get you’re a Leafs fan who thinks he is trending up, but literally every team in the league has “Holls” that are worth zilch. 26 year old minor league player. Zero value.

This is a bad trade, no other way around it.

No need to be disingenuous. The Marlie's were quite a young team. But, no question, I think Vancouver keeps Woo.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Scraps? You're ignoring recent history, and solid AHL careers.

Leipsic put up as good numbers as Johnsson did in the AHL and has shown more in the NHL. You realize Vancouver just drafted Woo 37th overall right?

This is worse than an offer of Leipsic for Sandin. Think about that

 

[mazmin]

Terrible. No one outside of Toronto cares one lick about Johnsson or Holl. Depth pieces as best right now.

Swap Woo for a 4th rounder and... sure.

 

[ottomaddox]

My dude...

Leipsic himself has accomplished more at the NHL level than Johnsson. Nobody really cares what he did in the AHL on stacked, veteran, overpaid Marlie teams.

I wouldn’t trade Leipsic for Johnsson alone.

Then you’re adding 18 year old Jett Woo just drafted in the 2nd round for AHL fodder. Sorry, I get you’re a Leafs fan who thinks he is trending up, but literally every team in the league has “Holls” that are worth zilch. 26 year old minor league player. Zero value.

This is a bad trade, no other way around it.

Leipsic has zero NHL playoff games and less accomplishments on a "stacked veteran AHL team (also played for the Marlies).

 

[Pia8988]

This is really bad and you’re trying to defend it.

 

[ottomaddox]

This is really bad and you’re trying to defend it.

This is really bad and you're trying to defend it.

 

[ottomaddox]

Leipsic put up as good numbers as Johnsson did in the AHL and has shown more in the NHL. You realize Vancouver just drafted Woo 37th overall right?

This is worse than an offer of Leipsic for Sandin. Think about that

Someone in this thread said that Woo is worth a 4th, sooooo...there's that.

I think that it's really hard to honestly evaluate many 2nd round players. Sandin is looking good so far, but many 2nd rounders don't cut it. Jett Woo probably will suffer the same fate. He's not special though.

 

[dangomon]

Someone in this thread said that Woo is worth a 4th, sooooo...there's that.

I think that it's really hard to honestly evaluate many 2nd round players. Sandin is looking good so far, but many 2nd rounders don't cut it. Jett Woo probably will suffer the same fate. He's not special though.

He said that the trade would be better if you subbed him out for a 4th. He's about worth the 37th overall pick at this point.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Scraps? You're ignoring recent history, and solid AHL careers.

Oh no, we're aware of posting history.

 

[ottomaddox]

He said that the trade would be better if you subbed him out for a 4th. He's about worth the 37th overall pick at this point.

Oh ok. No. I won't do that.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Scraps for two decent pieces. Sigh...

Canucks say no quite comfortably.

I see as soon as Leipsic is no longer a Leaf he is a decent piece...love this place.

 

[LeafGrief]

Leipsic is not any good and would not take a roster spot from any player on the Leafs. He and Holl are both AHL'ers.

Johnsson has looked bad this year but I'd rather have the reigning AHL playoff MVP as my healthy scratch than a guy who gets healthy scratched on the Canucks.

I don't blame Vancouver fans for not liking this deal because of Woo, but I hate this deal too.

 

[garyturner3]

A whole lot of nothing impressive being offered on either side in this proposal. I'm sure that won't stop both fanbases from thinking guys like Leipsic and Johnsson all have these imaginary high ceilings where in reality not a single player in this OP is much higher than waiver wire material.

 

[Kamiccolo]

[QUOTE="heybuddyhowyadoing, post: 151263683, member: 293901"]Ultimately TOR needs a role player/agitator in their bottom 6. Leipsic is just right.

Holl is a good player and could add depth to VAN. There seems to be a major log jam on TOR's RHD now.

Johnsson is a struggling in a 4th line role but could be good for VAN in a more offensive role. He was a solid player for the Marlies last year and helped the team win the AHL championship.

Woo is the add on to even out this trade.[/QUOTE]

Ever heard of this Kadri kid?