[VAN/TBL] Cond. 1st ('20 / '21) Plus for J.T. Miller || Part 2

[topched88]

So so bad. I remember reading the trade and it was a gut punch. Then I saw the first was condition and was certain it was going to be some absurd condition. Not really, just what year they get it.

 

[The Extrapolater]

It’s perfectly fine to hate the trade but it’s kind of sad when people need to make **** up about Miller. He is a fine second line forward who is extremely versatile.

Oi, apologize. I did not "make shit up".

 

[PuckMunchkin]

The worst possible outcome is:

4 years of J.T. Miller (an overpaid complementary top 6 forward)

for

2021 1st round pick (1st overall) + 2019 3rd round pick (71st overall)

Could you imagine?

How could anybody fully analyze this deal, and still pull the trigger on it? Incredible, really. Did he even consider it at all, because I honestly believe Jimbo was like "He can rip the puck real good, we have to get him no matter the cost"?? Shows how desperate DimJim truly is.

And how doomed this franchise is.

I hate this trade but I dont think Miller is on a bad contract.

 

[Fatass]

This is not the going price for someone like JT Miller.

Thats all you need to know to decide wether it is a good deal or bad deal.

Need more?

- Tampa fans cant believe what they got for him.
- Only two players the past two years commanded a 1st round pick AT THE TRADE DEADLINE
- Tampa was in a cap crunch and they HAD to make a trade, we still overpaid to get Miller

It’s our owner getting his nose into hockey opps again. He gave that speech before the trade that we had bottomed out, and there were much brighter days ahead. I’m sure JB got his orders from the top to make the playoffs ASAP. We all know it’s too soon, but our owner, for his own reasons, doesn’t care.

 

[Hodgy]

The other Miller trade is further evidence, if anyone really needed any, that this trade was an overpayment. Clearly teams are taking much less for players than usual due to cap constraints.

 

[Hodgy]

It’s our owner getting his nose into hockey opps again. He gave that speech before the trade that we had bottomed out, and there were much brighter days ahead. I’m sure JB got his orders from the top to make the playoffs ASAP. We all know it’s too soon, but our owner, for his own reasons, doesn’t care.

Must be the owner. That’s why Gillis’ transactions were also poor and why the Canucks did poorly under him. Wait, that didn’t happen at all.

 

[DarrenX]

He's best used on a team's third line

And here's yet another person who thinks that consistent 50-point producers are "third liners".

 

[Knight53]

Confirmed with Link: - [VAN/TBL] Cond. 1st ('20 / '21), 2019 3rd, Marek Mazanec for J.T. Miller

First 10 to 15 pages are entertaining as hell lmao

 

[82Ninety42011]

Confirmed with Link: - [VAN/TBL] Cond. 1st ('20 / '21), 2019 3rd, Marek Mazanec for J.T. Miller

First 10 to 15 pages are entertaining as hell lmao

I don't think many can say they saw this coming from Miller but hey I'm glad I was wrong !!

 

[Fatass]

I don't think many can say they saw this coming from Miller but hey I'm glad I was wrong !!

If there is a draft in June, do we know if our first goes to NJ (via TBay)?

 

[Knight53]

I don't think many can say they saw this coming from Miller but hey I'm glad I was wrong !!

Another fun one is the granlund shinkauruk trade. We all went crazy over a nothing trade

 

[EpochLink]

Another fun one is the granlund shinkauruk trade. We all went crazy over a nothing trade

Shinkaruk had injuries he couldn’t recover from. It was supposed to be Horvat and Shinkaruk for years...ah well.

 

[mathonwy]

Another fun one is the granlund shinkauruk trade. We all went crazy over a nothing trade

Actually..

Having to watch Markus Granlund a pleasant surprise this season? play hockey for 3 years is not "nothing".

 

[82Ninety42011]

If there is a draft in June, do we know if our first goes to NJ (via TBay)?

No idea until they decide on who makes playoffs would be my guess.

Another fun one is the granlund shinkauruk trade. We all went crazy over a nothing trade

Myself included we actually won that trade if anyone did really.

 

[clunk]

Confirmed with Link: - [VAN/TBL] Cond. 1st ('20 / '21), 2019 3rd, Marek Mazanec for J.T. Miller

First 10 to 15 pages are entertaining as hell lmao

Yeah, fair, but people had a right to be a little ticked off with the Canucks sending a 1st round pick away for anything less than a bonafide first line player; especially at the state the team was in. Miller was looking like a 2nd line winger, albeit on a nice contract. Luckily, Miller turned into an elite two way player for us, at least this season, but I don't think anyone actually predicted he'd do that, and rightfully so.

Hockey's weird.

 

[Hit the post]

Myself included we actually won that trade if anyone did really.

Granlund wasted a roster spot on the parent club for several years. I don't call that winning.

Yeah, fair, but people had a right to be a little ticked off with the Canucks sending a 1st round pick away for anything less than a bonafide first line player; especially at the state the team was in. Miller was looking like a 2nd line winger, albeit on a nice contract. Luckily, Miller turned into an elite two way player for us, at least this season, but I don't think anyone actually predicted he'd do that, and rightfully so.

Hockey's weird.

Especially if that 1st round pick turns out to be a lottery pick; and then we 'win' that lottery.

 

[MS]

Myself included we actually won that trade if anyone did really.

I’ll re-post this from yesterday.

Former Canucks Thread

 

[82Ninety42011]

Granlund wasted a roster spot on the parent club for several years. I don't call that winning.

Hence I said "won that trade if anyone did really."

 

[clunk]

Especially if that 1st round pick turns out to be a lottery pick; and then we 'win' that lottery.

Yeah exactly. It felt like one of those 'rush the rebuild' shortcut moves that Benning has been quite famous for here, with potentially crippling circumstances.

 

[Knight53]

Actually..

Having to watch Markus Granlund a pleasant surprise this season? play hockey for 3 years is not "nothing".

Gonna miss him. Never seen a nothing player drive a portion of the fanbase that crazy.

Solid tank commander during the tank years.

 

[Knight53]

Yeah, fair, but people had a right to be a little ticked off with the Canucks sending a 1st round pick away for anything less than a bonafide first line player; especially at the state the team was in. Miller was looking like a 2nd line winger, albeit on a nice contract. Luckily, Miller turned into an elite two way player for us, at least this season, but I don't think anyone actually predicted he'd do that, and rightfully so.

Hockey's weird.

It's crazy how lucky benning has been when it comes to potentially crippling this franchise. From the Lucic and Subban non trades to getting an elite player in Miller for a mid first.

 

[mathonwy]

Gonna miss him. Never seen a nothing player drive a portion of the fanbase that crazy.

Solid tank commander during the tank years.

He was ok on the PK.

Useless everywhere else.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Confirmed with Link: - [VAN/TBL] Cond. 1st ('20 / '21), 2019 3rd, Marek Mazanec for J.T. Miller

First 10 to 15 pages are entertaining as hell lmao

Agreed, very entertaining and appropriate. That's the reaction I would expect from a knowledgeable fanbase when their GM makes a seemingly stupid trade.

This comment by Dmitri Filapovic was especially poignant:

"The condition on that 1st round pick in the JT Miller trade may as well be 'if the Canucks don't make the playoffs in 2019-20 I'm probably out of a job anyway so who cares"

Motivational.

 

[Hammer79]

We might shed this pick to NJ based on winning percentage for this early June draft the NHL head office is pushing, then turn around and miss the playoffs. Even though that would be beneficial, it would be kind of hilarious.

 

[Vancouver_2010]

Giving up a potential first round pick for Miller is a bad move, no matter how you sliced it.