Proposal: Van Ott

[M2Beezy]

Canucks should soon be looking to move on from Virtanen as he hasnt really felt the fire to elevate his game to the NEXT level. I think he can make it there, but not in a Canucks jersey. Also Vancity has a GLUT of dmen waiting to get their shot and some could easily make other teams lineups and Chatty is that guy. Ottawa also is looking to move on from Brown, could use some physicality and has lots a picks, so how about this.

Lemme know if the picks could be ajusted slightly to BALANCE out the trade in your opinion:

To Ottawa: Virtanen, Chatfield, 2022 5th round pick

To Vancity: Brown, 2021 2nd round pick

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[The Moose is Loose]

Favors Vancouver but I knew that even before I opened the thread

 

[Mal Reynolds]

I think it's more fair if you take out all the fluff (Chatfield & the picks)

That being said, I don't know that either team goes for it.... think Ottawa either keeps Brown to marinate on the farm (until they move some bodies out down the road) or pulls a different asset that better suits their needs... and Vancouver, being fairly strong down the middle (aside from arguably needing more of a traditional matchup 3C), doesn't really *need* a guy like Brown

If he is legit on the outs, let him go to any one of the teams that could give him a look as a prospective top 6 C

 

[Artanis]

No.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Hell no. Virtanen isn't good.

 

[Qward]

We cannot afford players with defensive liabilities right now.
Sorry.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Sens say no

 

[McJedi]

Hell no. Virtanen isn't good.

And Brown is? A guy that’s still a minor leaguer getting past by younger players coming thru the system. Brown is maybe worth a 3rd rounder.

if he gets traded, it will be for another stalled or failed prospect from another organization

 

[Adele Dazeem]

And Brown is? A guy that’s still a minor leaguer getting past by younger players coming thru the system. Brown is maybe worth a 3rd rounder.

if he gets traded, it will be for another stalled or failed prospect from another organization

Ottawa only trades Brown within a package for a much better player than Virtanen.

 

[McJedi]

Ottawa only trades Brown within a package for a much better player than Virtanen.

So long as Brown is just some minor filler. Sure. Who is the base from Ottawa for such a package is more interesting.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

So long as Brown is just some minor filler. Sure. Who is the base from Ottawa for such a package is more interesting.

Sanderson + Brown + Tierney (cap) to Columbus for PLD, is what I would do if I were GM.

 

[McJedi]

Sanderson + to Columbus for PLD, is what I would do if I were GM.

Ok. Sanderson+2021 1st+ A Formenton + and2

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Ok. Sanderson+2021 1st+ and + and2

No to the 2021 1st. That would be too pricey. Would rather go for Barzal if he's available at that point.

 

[McJedi]

No to the 2021 1st. That would be too pricey. Would rather go for Barzal if he's available at that point.

Ok. Sanderson+ Formenton + Brannstrom + 2021 2nd or (L Brown).

Barzal isn’t available.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

And Brown is? A guy that’s still a minor leaguer getting past by younger players coming thru the system. Brown is maybe worth a 3rd rounder.

if he gets traded, it will be for another stalled or failed prospect from another organization

Boom or bust for Brown. Either he hits as a legit top 6 center, or he fades into nothingness. The Senators don't need medicore pieces and picks. They need elite talent, especially a center.

Only way they trade Brown this season is if they can package him for someone way better.

 

[McJedi]

Boom or bust for Brown. Either he hits as a legit top 6 center, or he fades into nothingness. The Senators don't need medicore pieces and picks. They need elite talent, especially a center.

Only way they trade Brown this season is if they can package him for someone way better.

Again, he’s just filler. Not even good filler. So the base is what’s interesting in such offers. Brown is no where near base in an offer for a better player.

And filler is interchangeable. Several teams may have zero interest in him and would want other filler from Ottawa.

 

[Kryten]

We cannot afford players with defensive liabilities right now.
Sorry.

Yet you employ Gudbranson?

 

[elitepete]

Hell no. Virtanen isn't good.

Brown is garbage

 

[crowi]

Brown is garbage

As outside fan, that's exactly what Virtanen is as well.

 

[elitepete]

As outside fan, that's exactly what Virtanen is as well.

18 goals is garbage?

 

[crazyhawk]

An 11th OA pick who due to bad luck with injuries hasn't even gotten in 30 games in the NHL and is 6.6 .... hmmmm I think I'd hold onto him for a little longer. Especially if the offer is Virtanen and Ottawa adds a 2nd to boot!! lol

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Brown's only real issue has been staying healthy. He has other flaws, obviously, but the guy has played 177 games over his 4 post-draft seasons. People saying he sucks or is garbage in this thread sound really dumb. A 6.6 21 year old posting 1.12pt/g in the A and .35pt/g in the NHL is very solid. His offensive skill is borderline elite. He will draw into the lineup over the year and get a real shot to stick... certainly before he's dealt for a 3rd, lol.

 

[ismelofhockey]

18 goals is garbage?

Over a ppg in his second AHL season is garbage?

 

[M2Beezy]

Cmon guys NEITHER is garbage, got their strengths and short comings

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Cmon guys NEITHER is garbage, got their strengths and short comings

Agreed, and I dont think this is a bad trade even though I wouldnt do it from the Sens perspective. Both players have major warts at this point... Virtanen is more of a sure thing, Brown has the ability to be a PP threat to an extent that Virtanen does not... Brown plays a more important position, but that's not exactly a plus if you aren't able to grab one of those spots... Ottawa isn't super strong on RW (although they've been building it up lately without using prime assets to do so), but have a huge amount of young C's who project pretty safely in the middle of the lineup

This is a trade I would re-evaluate later in the year, personally. Although I have met Jake and know people who know him well, and I know people who know Brown reasonably well, and I'll just say that I find it a lot easier to root for Brown lol. I do like Jakes raw ability as a player though, and think if he really decides he wants to be an important player he could be one (and would fit great with the style we're building).