Confirmed with Link: [VAN/OTT] Anders Nilsson, Darren Archibald traded for Tom Pyatt, Mike McKenna, 6th Round Pick in '19

[Paulinvancouver]

Just got home and holy shit there was a trade! only read the first page, but I really don't like this deal for us.

I predict Nilsson to take over as starter, and lead the team to a strong finish, likely not enough for playoffs, but a start strong enough to give him a new contract and more games next year.

Draft picks are worth NOTHING and we lost the two best players in this trade. Nilsson > McKenna and Archibald > Pyatt.

I thought Archie deserved more chances with the big club as well and still may be better than Schaller has been for us, man, another guy that's come to Vancouver and really fallen off the cliff.

We have NO idea that Demko is ready to play. I agree that we've got to figure out what we have in him before reupping him in the summertime.

the ONLY saving grace for this trade is that everyone's a FA in the summer, and we save a tiny amount of cap & cash.

Disappointing. Goodbye Anders Nilsson, and your weirdly hot (but mostly not) wife.

 

[StreetHawk]

the ONLY saving grace for this trade is that everyone's a FA in the summer, and we save a tiny amount of cap & cash.

That's why it's not a bad trade. Archibald was a free agent last summer and went to market. He ended up signing back with Vancouver after July 1 after no other team wanted him. So, not as if there's interest from the league for him.

Nilsson, wasn't returning next season due to Demko. Winless in his last 8/9 starts. 8 weeks left before the TDL. Hutchinson just fetched a 5th rounder in 2020 from Toronto. If that's a 2019 pick, the difference would be like 7-8 draft positions with the Ottawa pick. Demko is going to get a contract regardless. You want him to get into 12-15 games this season because Markstrom is up in 2020. Need to know what kind of second goalie you will require to split time with Demko after next season. More experience he gets this year will only help him figure out what he needs work on over the summer and into next season.

 

[Fire Benning]

Burton needs to lay off the booze I think.

 

[Jack Burton]

Burton needs to lay off the booze I think.

 

[wetcoast]

Glad Benning got a centre for Utica on this. Sucks giving up Archibald but at least it was for an AHL C

Overall we get a 6th out of this and Demko can come up. Cool. Hopefully Pyatt is good enough to replace Archibald in the A...

I had to go back to 97 to find a 6th round pick by the Caucks that even made the NHL in Matt Coke.

I'm a diehard, lifelong Canucks fan and can't even remember Chad Brownlee

Chad Brownlee (b.1984) hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I think Tom Pyatt will help the Comets and serves as a decent injury call up. He's not bad. We're a little bit soft in Utica but Arch wasn't providing much toughness anymore. I have no problem with this trade; like picking up a pick, that's always nice. Demko gets his shot now obviously too of course. We'll see what happens there, Nilsson was shitting the bed here, he can go try is luck in Ottawa...

 

[Zippgunn]

Just got home and holy **** there was a trade! only read the first page, but I really don't like this deal for us.

I predict Nilsson to take over as starter, and lead the team to a strong finish, likely not enough for playoffs, but a start strong enough to give him a new contract and more games next year.

Draft picks are worth NOTHING and we lost the two best players in this trade. Nilsson > McKenna and Archibald > Pyatt.

I thought Archie deserved more chances with the big club as well and still may be better than Schaller has been for us, man, another guy that's come to Vancouver and really fallen off the cliff.

We have NO idea that Demko is ready to play. I agree that we've got to figure out what we have in him before reupping him in the summertime.

the ONLY saving grace for this trade is that everyone's a FA in the summer, and we save a tiny amount of cap & cash.

Disappointing. Goodbye Anders Nilsson, and your weirdly hot (but mostly not) wife.

I too feel that Nilsson is waaaay better than he has shown here in recent weeks but then he has been given little chance to shine in Vancouver. Getting a draft pick out of this deal is good and all and we can always re-sign Archie when he becomes a UFA if we really want to. The part of this trade that perplexes me is the notion that it was done with an eye to introducing Demko to the NHL. Never mind that he is still recovering from a concussion and has hardly set the AHL on fire but if the Canucks are serious about this kid they are going to have to totally change their strategy with regard with how they determine which goalie starts which game. If they continue to pick the tough games, the early starts, the second of back to backs and all the other weird games that they have sheltered Markstrom from playing and give them to the backup(like they did almost exclusively with Nilsson (who played 2/3 rds of his games on the road and both of this season's starts against Tampa) it is almost certain that, barring a miraculous turnaround in his game, Demko will get destroyed and lose what little confidence that he might already have thus literally rendering him useless to the organisation and possibly derailing his career forever. Luckily we have DiPietro in the pipeline if that happens but I still think this strategy is foolhardy...

 

[Cancuks]

Good riddance to Nilsson. His head doesn't even seem like its in hockey. More interested in taking half naked Instagram pics and going to pool parties.

 

[StreetHawk]

Have the Canucks been blown out of games much this year? No.. Not even during that 13 game skid. Pretty much in every game until like the final 10 minutes of like the Winnipeg game and the final 7 minutes of the Pittsburgh game because 2 goals got scored.

Demko will be fine. He is very mature. Understands the nature of the position and what the expectation is for backups at this point in time.

The NJ game, not sure if that is the final one off, but that was a brutal start for any goalie. Fly in from MST zone to the East the day before and play a 1 pm game.

They will figure out when to put him in.

 

[JumpierPegasus]

I had to go back to 97 to find a 6th round pick by the Caucks that even made the NHL in Matt Coke.

I'm a diehard, lifelong Canucks fan and can't even remember Chad Brownlee

Chad Brownlee (b.1984) hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

He has a very successful country music career though, so probably one of the most well known Canuck 6th round picks of all time

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I'm only getting worked up if we made the playoffs....I think we could have but not anymore.

Give Tom Pyatt a chance man

He could grow on you

 

[VanillaCoke]

Nilsson's contract makes him a negative value asset.

The contract expires in 4 months so no, no it doesn't.

 

[Paulinvancouver]

Give Tom Pyatt a chance man

He could grow on you

Like a puss filled cyst.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Like a puss filled cyst.

I was thinking more along the lines of a well groomed pencil thin mustache.

 

[PM]

I liked Archibald... sucks that he never got a real chance here and he was a fan favourite in Utica. Tom Pyatt sucks and I’m worried he’s going to get overplayed as he always seems to. Was never a fan of Nilsson but I’m not so sure Demko is ready for the NHL yet. Getting a pick is nice, even if it’s really late.

If Pyatt plays in the AHL I’ll chalk this up to a slight win. If he gets anywhere near our top-9 it’s a loss.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

 

[Bitz and Bites]

He said that? Oh lord...

Benning also said the same thing about Sbisa and Jokinen.

When Benning says this about a player he acquires,it’s probably safe to assume that the players former team insisted he be included in the deal.

 

[Canucks1096]

Canucks have nine draft picks for the 2019 draft.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

So we are coming to a point where some ppl get mad because we gave up a 2.5m average back up and a NHL plug for a 6th round pick/two UFA AHL additions/ a chance for Demko to prove himself before his ELC expires.
Some ppl just can’t seperate their hates toward JB from good things he did. Not everything needs to be black

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

He said that? Oh lord...

What he said was something along the line of “ We are exciting to have Tom Pyatt, I think he’s gonna help out our young players development in Utica.”

Besides what is he gonna say? “Oh we acquire him because we need to take a contract back from Ottawa.”

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Nilsson suuuuuuuucks.

Horrendous rebound control.

 

[F A N]

I had to go back to 97 to find a 6th round pick by the Caucks that even made the NHL in Matt Coke.

I'm a diehard, lifelong Canucks fan and can't even remember Chad Brownlee

Chad Brownlee (b.1984) hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

It seems like we have more luck with 5th round picks than 6th.

 

[stampedingviking]

I'm sorry.

Our fan base is congratulating Jim Benning for this trade.

I've been pro tank since 20013 but this is probably his worst trade EVER.

Unbelievable.

Please, just stop, you're making yourself look like a fool.

 

[stampedingviking]

ONE GUY. ONE.

And this guy, who was making bets that Pettersson wasn't going to be good.

"The Anti-Benning faction" has been accurately assessing the trade as "good" due to the pick. Don't try to drop your woe is me, everyone that disagrees with me is a hater, irrational, biased, garbage.

The truth is "The Anti-Benning faction" are mostly level headed, and right in being critical of most of JBs actions, but you can't accept that and need to justify your lack of bias-intelligence by picking out a single nonsensical poster. Nice one.

 

[stampedingviking]

Honestly, it's Archibald I'm pissed about.

If we ACTUALLY make the playoffs...we seriously could have used him.

Would you not agree with that?

No, he's a plug who should stay in the A.