Proposal: Van - Mtl

[Hins77]

vanvouver : -} Karl Alzner D and scherbak . Montreal :} Loui eriksson and gaudette. Both have 4 years on theirs contract. Eriksson had his best year under claude julien. Alzner is from BC.

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[Lebowski]

I'd rather stick with Alzner if only for the fact he takes up less cap space.

Plus, we already have too many wingers.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I don’t think the difference in contracts between Alzner and Erikkson with the addition of Scherbak would make VAN Adan’s to happy about giving up Gaudette

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Huge no. Gaudette isn’t getting traded for anything close to that.

 

[Just Linda]

The trade makes some sense in regards to both teams trading what they don’t need but neither team really gains anything they need either. It’s a redundancy trade.

 

[Llamamoto]

Adam Gaudette is criminally underrated.

 

[Horse McHindu]

Only way I consider giving up Gaudette is if Montreal gives us Drouin or Juulsen.

 

[Kevs Security]

MTL:
Schlemko
Deslauriers
4th

VAN:
Pouliot
Schaller

There. Fixed it for you.

 

[JuniorNelson]

I wouldn't give up Gaudette because he'll probably spend most of the season in Vancouver. Canucks do not have a wealth of centers or scoring. If an injury occurs, Gaudette is first up.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Only way I consider giving up Gaudette is if Montreal gives us Drouin or Juulsen.

You do realize those two aren't in the same stratosphere as far as trade value goes? Either way the Habs pass on both cases although Gaudette for Juulsen is probably fair value.

 

[beowulf]

Only way I consider giving up Gaudette is if Montreal gives us Drouin or Juulsen.

Ohhh Gawd.

 

[13 others]

No thanks, we don't need to dump salary so there's no point in giving up Gaudette.

 

[canuckslover10]

Honestly think eriksson might bounce back this season to 40 to 50 points

 

[Cquant]

Would you give up that package for Poehling? On another note, it's like the Canucks sending Pouliot and Gagner to Montreal because they have French sounding names.

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

You do realize those two aren't in the same stratosphere as far as trade value goes? Either way the Habs pass on both cases although Gaudette for Juulsen is probably fair value.

Yeah what the heck? That’s like yeah we want either Horvat or Stecher lol

 

[strongcomp05]

want no part of erikssson at all

 

[Just Linda]

You do realize those two aren't in the same stratosphere as far as trade value goes? Either way the Habs pass on both cases although Gaudette for Juulsen is probably fair value.

No, no it’s not.

Gaudette hasn’t made the NHL yet, Juulsen has shown he can be a top 4 in the NhL (his numbers don’t show it but in the small sample size from last season, his underlying numbers showed that he’s very close to being there if he’s not already). Juulsen is younger too.

If both hit their ceilings, maybe they’d be equal but Juulsen is farther along in development and is younger.

 

[Just Linda]

Would you give up that package for Poehling? On another note, it's like the Canucks sending Pouliot and Gagner to Montreal because they have French sounding names.

Montreal shouldn’t do that trade imo. Poehling put up better numbers in college than Mittlestadt despite being younger, he lacks some of Mittlestadt’s skill but makes up for it by being a better two way player. Poehling has a higher ceiling than Gaudette, he’s less likely to get there but at this point it’s not worth risking it from the habs side.

 

[Hostile Offer]

No, no it’s not.

Gaudette hasn’t made the NHL yet, Juulsen has shown he can be a top 4 in the NhL (his numbers don’t show it but in the small sample size from last season, his underlying numbers showed that he’s very close to being there if he’s not already). Juulsen is younger too.

If both hit their ceilings, maybe they’d be equal but Juulsen is farther along in development and is younger.

The bolded is where your narrative fails. Juulsen is physically very mature for his age and can decently handle NHL competition but he is still pretty rough around the edges. I like Juulsen and I think we will get a solid 2nd pairing dman out of him but a decent showing in the few games he played in the NHL last year is certainly not enough to tell he's that already. Ideally he would right now be in the AHL figuring out his offensive game.

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

No, no it’s not.

Gaudette hasn’t made the NHL yet, Juulsen has shown he can be a top 4 in the NhL (his numbers don’t show it but in the small sample size from last season, his underlying numbers showed that he’s very close to being there if he’s not already). Juulsen is younger too.

If both hit their ceilings, maybe they’d be equal but Juulsen is farther along in development and is younger.

He’s younger by six months. And how much further ahead is he really? He’s played 24 NHL games to Gaudette’s five. Not exactly night and day

 

[ole ole]

Only way I consider giving up Gaudette is if Montreal gives us Drouin or Juulsen.

Ya sure bud,

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I'd rather hang on to Alzner to be honest. Cheaper on the cap hit
We pretty much got a cheaper version of Eriksson in Tatar in the Pacioretty deal.
We have too many wingers anyways

 

[Just Linda]

He’s younger by six months. And how much further ahead is he really? He’s played 24 NHL games to Gaudette’s five. Not exactly night and day

He’s established his role in the nhl already, Gaudette is still working his way on the roster. Montreal hopes Juulsen will be a top 4 dman, they are playing him as one while Vancouver hopes Gaudette will be a middle six centre but doesn’t have confidence he is ready for that role. Juulsen handles himself well at the NhL though he still needs to work on his offensive skills and he’s performed well at the AHL level in 31 games while Gaudette hasn’t played at the pro level yet.

Not saying 1 is better than the other but Gaudette is worse than Juulsen but it is fair to say Juulsen is further along in development

 

[member 105785]

Eriksson looked downright okay last night while winging Pettersson, I'd rather wait and see how that goes for now.

 

[Cquant]

He’s established his role in the nhl already, Gaudette is still working his way on the roster. Montreal hopes Juulsen will be a top 4 dman, they are playing him as one while Vancouver hopes Gaudette will be a middle six centre but doesn’t have confidence he is ready for that role. Juulsen handles himself well at the NhL though he still needs to work on his offensive skills and he’s performed well at the AHL level in 31 games while Gaudette hasn’t played at the pro level yet.

Not saying 1 is better than the other but Gaudette is worse than Juulsen but it is fair to say Juulsen is further along in development

Gaudette doesn't have the defensive acumen to beat out Sutter. We're developing him for now. And Gaudette doesn't have the offensive acumen to beat out Pettersson. Whereas Montreal's view on centers is known league wide.
24 games does not make him a better prospect, nor do i think their ceilings are different. They're very similar prospects. Gaudette will be fine. There's no rush.

I wouldn't trade Gaudette for Juulsen. It's easier to find a guy like Juulsen than a guy like Gaudette. That's just opinion.

But the idea wasn't which prospect is better. We are all clearly going to be homers and go for our own guys. The point was that you don't throw away a guy like Gaudette in a nothing trade like this. The point was, switching Gaudette and Poehling (value is similar) is enough of a mental exercise to show that this proposal sucks for Vancouver, a team that's rebuilding and looking to retain as many high-potential prospects as possible.