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Seriously. Diaz is a low event defensive defenceman.
Except here.
Seriously. Diaz is a low event defensive defenceman.
Diaz just didn't show lot of improvement since is concussion... Still I would of guess Diaz had a bit more potential value than than a fringe NHL 4th liner, I would of like to see MB get a extra 5th or 6th round pick from Vancouver or at least a conditional pick if he resigned... That being said Weise is probably fit perfectly on the 4th line.
I can't believe that the habs brass can''t grasp that inserting murray into the lineup has directly correlated with their slip in play and the standings. We were a much better team without him.
I did. And I did so because he's good at it and it's a skill we need.Never once mentioned today how Murray clears the crease.
Why would I complain about him if he was playing well? You seem to think I have some stake in his failure or success... that's not the case. I care about the team winning... that's it. Price, Subban, Max help us win. Bouillion and Murray don't. It's not personal. I just want us to win.Do you read my posts? Try watching him play instead of advocating something and then obviously ignoring him when he's playing well. He's not a bum, and he's playing just fine. You refuse to accept it because it would go against your constant whining about him.
The people you're attacking in this thread obviously.You say that "We've been saying Diaz should be in the lineup for weeks now"... Who is this revered "we"? Anyone that agrees with you on this suddenly become the board majority in your mind? There was no overwhelming support on here for Diaz ever..if anything the majority have disliked him from Day One.
Yeah, I guess it was "whining" when we traded McD for Gomez too right? I remember people screaming that at me all the time there too.I never said in any of my posts that there weren't people on here that wanted Diaz in the lineup..there are going to always be people on here whining about the lineup no matter who it involves...
If there were, then yeah those guys are out to lunch. I don't remember reading this but I didn't read all 700 posts.of course there were people supporting Diaz right now because he wasn't in the lineup..the longer he was out..the foggier are memories become and now suddenly he was the second coming of Streit.
Read all of the posts instead of somehow lumping my comments based on the Rafalski comparison. there have been several on here today contend he's a top four dman....which is incredulous.
What I said was that suddenly posters on here are making him out to be a top four blueliner..and that's a complete joke. there have been comparisons to Streit even.
Our management is not beyond criticism. If they make a stupid move they should be blasted for it. And being "better than Habs management" would not have been a tall order over the past decade or so. Gomez for McD? Samsonov, Briere, Kaberle... those are moves that are beyond stupid. And now we play Murray and bench Diaz?Not willing to give the new guy even a minute in the lineup first...whine and complain about the deal and let on you are better than the stupid Habs' management.....that's the common MO of your "we" that you speak about.
Common theme on here..and an utter farce actually.
Thing is, he has to make a blatantly obvious screw up for some people to notice how bad he is. They don't pay attention to the fact that when he's on the ice we're hemmed into our own zone and can't get the puck.I can't believe that the habs brass can''t grasp that inserting murray into the lineup has directly correlated with their slip in play and the standings. We were a much better team without him.
Diaz just didn't show lot of improvement since is concussion... Still I would of guess Diaz had a bit more potential value than than a fringe NHL 4th liner, I would of like to see MB get a extra 5th or 6th round pick from Vancouver or at least a conditional pick if he resigned... That being said Weise is probably fit perfectly on the 4th line.
He got something for Diaz but I don't feel he maximize the return... RH PMD are a lot more hard to find than 4th line grinders... Kind of player that could be had on waiver...
I wonder if Eller is next?
Didn't he have the most success when he DID play ~ 20 min per game? Looking quickly over game by game stats, that seems to be the case.
[/QUOTE]Sometimes the sheer lack of understanding/knowledge frustrates me around here. You know he was a healthy scratch because of the surrounding ufa issue, and not his play right? You also realize that you will be completely unable to come up with 7 names that deserve to be above him in the depth chart, and that you pulled the "8th on the depth chart" out of your ass too, right?
"Beaulieu instead of Diaz" is not a relevant course of discussion at all. They play opposite sides, and one seemed poised to enter the PP conversation while the other one was doing just fine as part of the PK conversation. How were these directly competing assets?!
Answer: if, and only if, you have Therrien as a coach, because he obviously doesn't bother distinguishing left from right in anything he tries to do with this team. If Beaulieu is actually close to ready, it's Bouillon who should graciously bow aside, but no... not Therrien's main boy.
And Weiss "taking Parros' place"? What about all the other players we already have who are better than Parros, but can't actually perform his role either? A lot.
Undervaluing Diaz, and overvaluing Weiss by referring to him as a "roster player". He hasn't played an entire season in the same jersey... ever maybe? Might not have gotten bounced to the minors in '11/12, I can't remember.
I'd like to know what you think the Habs could of packaged WITH Diaz to get a top 6 upgrade or hold out for more?...alot of people don't seem to get that it's not the fact that Diaz was traded that's got some of us upset; it's that he was traded for basically nothing to a team that desperately needed a puck-moving right-handed Dman right now...Bergevin missed an opportunity to either package Diaz with something else for a Top 6 upgrade or at least hold out for more from Gillis than just another 4th line plug...
Filosa on the trade: Diaz relieved to be wanted. Asked if Beaulieu took his place but said simply that Beaulieu is a real good player and deserved a chance. Weise on the other hand looked surprised, shocked.
Weise says he knows Prust, Moen and Daigneault.
I liked Diaz and preferred him over Bouillon and Murray this year. However, all three are likely off the team next year and I'm happy we got something (big, young, fast) for at least one of them. I don't think Diaz would have got us anymore and I don't think he was or would be making a difference on the team now. Let's see how Weise does, he might really surprise some people.
I want to give Diaz a hug.
Have you seen Blunden skate?
This is what I go on about. Conventional hockey labels have huge conceptual holes in them.
There is seriously no reason not to consider Diaz, given the way he has played the past two seasons a defensive defenseman who relies on positioning and shot blocking rather than being physically imposing. He doesn't do it the conventional way, well who cares if it gets results.
Does it make any kind of sense to call the guy you can play against reasonably good opposition and not get scored on much even if you don't score much yourself an offensive/puckmoving defenseman while calling the guy you shelter the crap out of and gets scored on constantly the defensive defenseman? At a certain point labels have to do business with what is actually happening on the ice rather than some platonic hockey ideal of what a body type and skillset stereotype you into.
This is what Diaz is. A guy that can consistently make safe, high-percentage plays that won't cause any disasters even if he has no flash to him. He's more like Gorges is on a good day than he's at all like Yannick Weber.
Why is Diaz worth more??? He is so soft can't move anyone from infront of the net and is going to demand 3mil at the end of the year.....
Tell me again why he is worth more because of an over rated 48 game sched last year....
Have you seen Blunden skate?