Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by cj19, Oct 20, 2018.
What is the value of Jeff Carter- Going to a Stanley Cup favourite team?
Hi. I'm a Jackets fan who remembers 2011-2012.
If LA holds some money back they should be able to move him
His cap hit is already very reasonable.
Not saying it isnt but most top end teams run so close to the cap,and with the actual dollars falling in the last three seasons he could be even more attractive
The issue is how many contending teams have $5m+ in cap space today to add Carter straight up? Then, how many of those contenders that have the space don't have to worry about trying to fit $5m+ of cap space for a forward into their budget for the following 3 season after this one? Toronto and Winnipeg have the space today, but we're already seeing cap constraints there. Boston has some RFA's to sign. I guess Nashville could fit him in, in theory, but they're already good, so they would be dictating the price on Carter. They wouldn't be desperate for him. Probably not getting Tolvanen for him. Unless they got desperate, but they're not there now.
If it came to trading him the Kings are 100% taking a lesser cap dump along with a few nice pieces for Carter.
Carter for Krug might work
don't they have Bergeron Krejci Backes down the middle?
don't think they need Carter unless Krejci's injury history is an issue?
I like Krug but hes not really what the Kings need unless they're moving out Muzzin and Martinez(which they should).
yes if LA lands Krug it's because they moved one of Muzzin / Martinez , which as Reaper points out, they should!
It'd allow Krejci to slot in at 3c, Backes to wing.
if the kings are out of it by trade deadline, they should sell him. Im thinking picks might be the best idea and try to add youth into that group. Muzzin/Martinez could also be shopped for picks or put with Carter for a care package for a cusp team for picks and prospects.
If La is trading carter we would also be looking to trade a lot more then him I would think I don't think the fire sell should start this early Get back to me in Nov after american thanks giving
A few nice pieces sounds like a lot. A 26 year old Carter brought back a few nice pieces. A 27 year old Carter brought back one nice piece, and at best a decent player. A soon to be 34 year old Carter, coming off an injury to his leg, which may or may not hinder him in some way, on a team that may or may not continue to struggle as the season plays out, I think other GM's would pressure Blake. Looking at what Lombardi traded to get him, when it was clear Carter wanted out of Columbus, it wasn't the largest price to pay. Plus Lombardi was desperate at the time. His job may have been on the line if the Kings don't make the playoffs that year. A lot of different variables there.
My expectations for a return on Carter are the equivalent of what they traded to get him. I think that's the best they could realistically do right now. If we're talking a contender, that's probably a 20-31 pick, and a guy off the roster to make the cap work. Multiple nice pieces for a 34 year old Carter with 3 more years left after this one? That sounds like a lot. Looking at the few bigger trades around the league over the last few years, not many of them involve that old of a player, with that much term left, bringing back a ton.
While Carter's contract does back dive a bit, it's not the same as Hossa or Zetterberg. His contract ends when he's 37, not begins back diving when he's 37. Teams will probably have to account for the $5m cap hit through 2022(assuming no lockout), which makes things more complicated, because cap space/flexibility is so damn important. Plus so many younger players are now getting the giant contracts earlier. That only makes future cap space that much more important.
I highly doubt LA would retain with so many years left on his deal.
Backes is cooked.
Does Cheetos have a no trade clause? Can't see him wanting to leave LA
If the Isles are still in a playoff position come the deadline, they may make good trading partners (Not just for Carter either) with the Kings.
The Isles already have young key core players producing or projecting into the lineup in the next two years. Adding vets would ensure they experience meaningful games.
If LA moves Carter it will signal a rebuild...sans Kopi and Doughty....
First and cusp of NHL prospect would be my ask.
Carter and Martinez for ?
Ladd and Boychuk ?
Sure if someone good comes with them. Their contracts are terrible.
I’d rather the Bruins look at Muzzin and Pearson tbh.
Though Pearson’s numbers this year are rather frightening. What happened to that guy?
Hasn't been the same since he broke his leg and is only effective with Carter who is also struggling to skate.
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