Raptors Discussion: v89| Those are some big rings | Raptors out to defend their championship

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  1. Mitchy #HFOutcasts

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    Lowry is well on his way to being a hall of famer. His advanced stats are indeed fantastic and his team impact will only be appreciated more as time goes on.
     
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    If you are not a guaranteed hall of famer are you really one then? It took Cheeks 25 years to get in. A lot of people got in before him. The same will be said for Lowry if he even makes it that far. I don't think Daniel Alfredsson is a hall of famer even though he was the greatest player in Sens history. He will eventually get in but after many more before him do.
     
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    Seems like the only potential loss for the rest of this month is 76ers.
     
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    Yes, especially since he went from being a rotational player to a top 5 point guard of his era.

    Player Season Finder | Basketball-Reference.com

    Among g-f's he's currently 21st in VORP. If I really wanted to I could've cut that off to guards exclusively (because he never plays forward) but it removes guys like Jordan, Magic, Drexler, Kobe, and the likes due to their positional flexibility. Nevertheless Lowry is pretty elite for his position over the entirety of his career and he has an outside shot of entering that top 15 (top 10 for pgs) territory. He's not first ballot, because that's pretty much entirely based off name recognition, but his ability is hall of fame worthy based off where he stands amongst his peers.
     
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    Only one of us is overreacting lmao
     
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    Positional flexibility? The players you named where shooting guards with the exception of magic who was a point guard. The VORP stat is a terrible method to judge a players importance. Plain and simple Lowry was on one of the best teams in the league for a few seasons and was selected an allstar for 5 of them but only was selected to the all NBA team once and that was to the 3rd team in 15-16. Lowry was an allstar in his prime but wasn't one of the best throughout his career.

    I guess we will see in 20 years.
     
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    We do live in the age where everyone gets a trophy. :facepalm:
     
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    Note: the headline says three former Raptors are not getting championship rings.

    The Blue Jays gave Darrin Jackson a ring for the 1993 world series even though he was dealt in June, before the team won the championship Oct 23rd. Jackson played a total of 46 games with the team.
     
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    Nav Bhatia and Drake got official championship rings. Nav and Drake played a total (let me get my calculator...) 0 games for the Raptors (although Drake stepped onto the floor once or twice).

    The CEOs of Bell and Rogers got championship rings.

    Jordan Loyd got a ring after playing 55 minutes for the Raptors for his entire career, and being ineligible for the playoffs.

    What a joke.
     
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    I couldn't believe there was even any discussion about giving rings to guys who weren't on the team in the playoffs. I'd be embarrassed to get a ring after being traded away mid season.

    I'm fine with Drake and Nav getting rings - Drake's part of the organization, just like the trainers and coaches. Nav.... Of course Nav gets a ring, he's NAV!!!

    The owners? Of course they get rings, they always do and the league wouldn't exist without them.

    I have no idea why Jays gave Darrin Jackson a ring. I watched those back-to-back World Series and have no recollection of the guy.
     
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    Baseball historically gives anyone who was part of the roster during the season a ring. Josh Towers has a ring from the Yankees for throwing 5 innings for them in 2009.
     
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    I was going to post the same thing. Some guys have played in World Series (I think Arthur Rhodes is a current example) who was a guaranteed a ring regardless because he played for the opponent earlier in the season.

    I get why a guy like JV would perhaps be entitled to a ring. But unless you're there celebrating when the final buzzer sounds, I don't think you should get a ring. As an athlete I would feel awkward having a championship ring when I didn't even win it. If your Wikipedia page doesn't say NBA Champion (19XX / 20XX), or the NBA itself doesn't recognize you as a champion, then no.
     
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    Regarding the rings;

    Am I the only one that would be pissed off if I did receive one after being traded like JV? (Edit: Missed above post somehow, we have the same thoughts on the subject!

    "Hey, heres a ring you didnt earn. Thanks for getting us marc Gasol!".

    I think the raps made the right call. Drake/Nav got them for reasons besides playing time and dont hold an impact on whether JV should or not IMO. You van disagree with them getting rings, but those werent players, just like lots of people in the raptors industry got rings that werent directly a part of the team.
     
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    Er, the owners always get rings...
     
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    The CEOs of Bell and Rogers do not own the Toronto Raptors. They are chosen by the board of directors to manage the company. The board of directors is beholden to the shareholders of Bell and Rogers. Said shareholders "own" Bell and Rogers, not the CEOs.
     
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    I feel bad for JV cause didn't Kyle text him after they won what his ring size was?
     
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    Media: "AD should win DPOY"

    Siakam:

     
  19. Critical13 Fear is the mind-killer.

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    Why do people keep repeating this bs?

    Drake BOUGHT a ring. The team didn’t hand him one.
     
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    He had his own made and the team gave him one.

    Drake flashes Raptors championship ring alongside his own custom-made US$150,000 bling


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    FVV & OG the splash bros tonight.
     
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    From participation trophies to participation championships rings. Human beings are becoming insufferable pansies.
     
  23. Critical13 Fear is the mind-killer.

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    Got a link for that?
     
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    What happened to OG?
     
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    He took an elbow to the eye. Should have a decent shiner.
     
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