USMNT Thread Part VIII

[SSF]

So Berhalter will be announced this week, hard to see how Cordeiro and Stewart think this process went well.

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[Viqsi]

I think the process has been a charlie-foxtrot, but presuming those reports are accurate, the end result ought to be just fine.

Of course, I'm a Crew SC supporter, so I may be a teensy bit biased.

 

[Savant]

So Berhalter will be announced this week, hard to see how Cordeiro and Stewart think this process went well.

I wonder how Jay Berhalter feels about it. This whole process was a joke, rigged for Greg Berhalter. USMNT has done nothing at all to get away from their status quo.

 

[kingsboy11]

I'm not into those kind of conspiracy theories about Jay and Earnie and all the other guys. I just think they are really that incompetent. And I don't have a problem with the Berhalter becoming the head coach, but the fact that it has taken as long as it has, offering a very small shortlist of potential coaches, apparently requiring coaches to speak English, and I just find that lazy. And waiting for Columbus to get out of the playoffs to announce Berhalter is just stupid too.

 

[John Price]

Some talk about Stieffen being loaned to Man City. He did well for MLS with Columbus Crew. Saw him in person against United. He is a rising USMNT prospect but there are questions about whether he'll see time in the EPL. Many Americans have come to EPL, not gotten time (see Landon Donovan) and had their careers stagnate.

 

[SSF]

Dont believe it is a loan, believe it is a transfer for 7 million dollars

 

[Basement Cat]

Landon Donovan’s spells with Everton were successful.

 

[East Coast Bias]

He's never going to play at City. He's not remotely good enough. Sounds like they're using him to loan him to their affiliates.

Which is dumb. Get bounced around Europe with no control.

 

[SSF]

LD's 2nd spell was nowhere near as successful as the first actually.
After the first I would have wanted him on a permanent, after the 2nd, i was comfortable with him returning to the Galaxy.

 

[Viqsi]

Dont believe it is a loan, believe it is a transfer for 7 million dollars

Massive Report (SBNation's Crew SC blog) is reporting independent confirmation of it being a transfer, that it's for $9 mil, and that if he can't get a work permit he'll be loaned to Nice:
Zack Steffen moving from Crew SC to Manchester City

Incidentally, it also mentions that there's a chance said money could end up going to Precourt for his eventual Austin franchise. I will be PISSED OFF BEYOND WORDS if that happens. But that's probably a topic for the MLS thread.

 

[Gecklund]

Massive Report (SBNation's Crew SC blog) is reporting independent confirmation of it being a transfer, that it's for $9 mil, and that if he can't get a work permit he'll be loaned to Nice:
Zack Steffen moving from Crew SC to Manchester City

Incidentally, it also mentions that there's a chance said money could end up going to Precourt for his eventual Austin franchise. I will be PISSED OFF BEYOND WORDS if that happens. But that's probably a topic for the MLS thread.

Nice could be interesting. With Viera there, he definitely knows about Steffen's talent. Don't know much about their keeper situation though.

 

[SSF]

Steffen wouldnt start at Nice either, have to think Benitez would keep his job.

 

[KingLB]

Massive Report (SBNation's Crew SC blog) is reporting independent confirmation of it being a transfer, that it's for $9 mil, and that if he can't get a work permit he'll be loaned to Nice:
Zack Steffen moving from Crew SC to Manchester City

Incidentally, it also mentions that there's a chance said money could end up going to Precourt for his eventual Austin franchise. I will be PISSED OFF BEYOND WORDS if that happens. But that's probably a topic for the MLS thread.

Meh,

Depends on how the transfer is structured. IE incentives and what not. There is also the chance it is in installment plans as many transfers are. That said, if you are selling a "company" and you know something like this is on the books it effects the sell price regardless. Similar to if company X bought company Y and company Y had $5 million in cash. That cash is basically just added to the value of the company. I have a feeling if the Steffen transfer included payments over time, that value would just be added to the agreed upon price of the sale of the company.

 

[Gecklund]

Steffen wouldnt start at Nice either, have to think Benitez would keep his job.

Would definitely start more games then he would at City.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Tata Martino would have been a great USMNT hire. Great job on that.

Let’s wait and not distract from the MLS season in our search while the best coach walks over to our rivals.

 

[Savant]

Tata Martino would have been a great USMNT hire. Great job on that.

Let’s wait and not distract from the MLS season in our search while the best coach walks over to our rivals.

Absolutely, but USMNT pretended to have a search, when the whole thing was rigged for Berhalter the whole time.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Absolutely, but USMNT pretended to have a search, when the whole thing was rigged for Berhalter the whole time.

Yup. Very clear they made their minds up months ago and just let this all play out. Terrible management.

I watch some MLS and I'm not anti-MLS, but I split on the USMNT. The USMNT is not there to be an extension and promoter of MLS. I'm not full Jurgen on this, but I just really cringe when I see this growing movement of hipster euro rejection of anything on MLS.

 

[Gecklund]

Berhalter will be a fine manager for USMNT

 

[Viqsi]

I just really cringe when I see this growing movement of hipster euro rejection of anything on MLS.

OMG yes. You get a cookie.

 

[SSF]

Berhalter will be officially announced Tuesday at noon ET in NYC

 

[Savant]

U.S. Soccer's Process Adds Pressure, Colors Perspective of Gregg Berhalter's Hiring

 

[kingsboy11]

I'm not sure I've ever been so underwhelmed when it comes to a coaching hire. And its not because I didn't want Berhalter or an MLS coach, he was actually the guy that first came to mind when Arena resigned. But the fact that it took 14 months and the fact that they never really did a proper coaching search is mind boggling to me. I can't think of any of federation pulling that off after a major embarrassment that we just did. And the fact that his first camp with the team will be a bunch of MLS players and his first game will be in February doesn't make this any better.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Would not be shocked to find out that he was always the guy, and they waited b/c they wanted to let the Columbus/Austin situation work itself out first.

 

[John Price]

I've said before that waiting after the WC was fine but the issue was after seeing who was available after the WC they proceeded to sit on their butts until DECEMBEr

The World Cup ended in like July. What did you do between then and December 3rd?

 

[SSF]

U.S. Soccer Foundation sues U.S. Soccer Federation

US Soccer just covering itself in glory this week. /s