Proposal: Using Schmaltz to move Saad?

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

It depends on his role with the team moving forward. He's not good enough to be a 2C and playing with Kane has a negative effect on both of them. So unless Schmaltz can play 1RW, Kane moves to 1RW or Schmaltz is fine with being paid 3C money, he doesn't fit in the system.

Schmaltz’s floor is a good second line winger. A center that puts up around sixty points - which is where I see Schmaltz ending the year - isn’t just a #2C but a damn good one.

 

[BK]

/\ You mean Schmaltz fits a system that's broke. Hmmm.I see.

No I mean Schmaltz fits any functional NHL system. Hmmm.

 

[Hawkaholic]

If Schmaltz can play this well in a broken system, imagine what he would be like in a functional one.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Schmaltz’s floor is a good second line winger. A center that puts up around sixty points - which is where I see Schmaltz ending the year - isn’t just a #2C but a damn good one.

Ya, there are very few people who think Schmaltz isn’t a good 2C.

It’s that his no shooting and his non-physical style doesn’t compliment Kane’s game well.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Schmaltz would be great with a winger that plays a more physical game, and who likes to shoot a lot but isn’t great at being the primary puckhandler.

Basically a motivated 2015 Saad type.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Ya, there are very few people who think Schmaltz isn’t a good 2C.

It’s that his no shooting and his non-physical style doesn’t compliment Kane’s game well.

I think he's much better suited for the wing. Unfortunately we have no centers to fill that 2C spot which is the only reason he's there. Wise can't come soon enough!

 

[Salvaged Ship]

We have been using young talent is trades to get rid of bad contracts, now we are seriously lacking quality young talent. Stop giving away promising young players to try and make up for past mistakes, thereby making even more mistakes.

Suck it up with Saad and hope he turns it around.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

We have been using young talent is trades to get rid of bad contracts, now we are seriously lacking quality young talent. Stop giving away promising young players to try and make up for past mistakes, thereby making even more mistakes.

Suck it up with Saad and hope he turns it around.

There's no way Schmaltz would be used to move Saad. It's much more likely to retain on Saad than to move him with Schmaltz.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

There's no way Schmaltz would be used to move Saad. It's much more likely to retain on Saad than to move him with Schmaltz.

With trades we have made in the recent past to dump salary I wouldn’t put it past this front office to do it again.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

With trades we have made in the recent past to dump salary I wouldn’t put it past this front office to do it again.

I guess never say never, you’re right

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I think he's much better suited for the wing. Unfortunately we have no centers to fill that 2C spot which is the only reason he's there. Wise can't come soon enough!

I still think he can be a good playmaking center with wingers that support his game. I think him playing with Kane hurts Schmaltz because Schmaltz zeros in on and force passes to Kane instead of using his vision to hit the open man.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I'd rather buy out Saad than to trade a good player with him to get rid of him. Save 4.2-4.5mil the next 2 years.

 

[Section88]

Any move we make right now would be an overreaction to an interesting start of the season. I would wait a while before making any serious moves. Might as well waive manning soon since it looks like forsling could be back shortly

 

[BK]

I think he's much better suited for the wing. Unfortunately we have no centers to fill that 2C spot which is the only reason he's there. Wise can't come soon enough!

Why do you think this? Honest question.

Aside from his 40% FO.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Why do you think this? Honest question.

Aside from his 40% FO.

Face off is a large part of it. That's your responsibility as a center so if you can't handle it, move to the wing. I think it also gives him more space away from Kane to do his thing. He also doesn't drive to net or create any screens in front. He's the kind of player that roams around which I think is more suited for the wing.

 

[BK]

Face off is a large part of it. That's your responsibility as a center so if you can't handle it, move to the wing. I think it also gives him more space away from Kane to do his thing. He also doesn't drive to net or create any screens in front. He's the kind of player that roams around which I think is more suited for the wing.

Schmaltz does create screens but in a movement sense. He will never be AA but his movement in the zone through the lanes creates natural screens.

Kuznetzov sucks are draws but makes it work. This is just one of many examples.

If Schmaltz can get to 44-46% it will not be an issue.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Pretty humorous the mainboard treats Saad’s contract as some pure cap dump and the Hawks have no other option but to buy it out. I get that he hasn’t been good in Chicago but the idea that teams wouldnt be interested in a 25 year old 2 time cup winner with multiple 30 goal seasons at say half retained is laughable.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Schmaltz does create screens but in a movement sense. He will never be AA but his movement in the zone through the lanes creates natural screens.

Kuznetzov sucks are draws but makes it work. This is just one of many examples.

If Schmaltz can get to 44-46% it will not be an issue.

We'll just have to see how things progress this year. I think he's just 2C because he has to be. Once a suitable replacement comes, he'll be on the wings.

 

[LDF]

Pretty humorous the mainboard treats Saad’s contract as some pure cap dump and the Hawks have no other option but to buy it out. I get that he hasn’t been good in Chicago but the idea that teams wouldnt be interested in a 25 year old 2 time cup winner with multiple 30 goal seasons at say half retained is laughable.

for me this yr is, am i am hoping here, a rebound yr for Saad.

 

[Any Colour You Like]

Slight bump, but I just felt like I needed to jump in and say that this is one of the worst trade proposals I've seen in a while.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Slight bump, but I just felt like I needed to jump in and say that this is one of the worst trade proposals I've seen in a while.

That said, I’d love to see Duchene and Dzingel sign in the offseason.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Why do you think this? Honest question.

Aside from his 40% FO.

For me I prefer him on wing because it seems like he forces more turnovers from that position. He's been flying around taking the puck from people like a maniac since he's been moved to wing. I would love to see him on the Toews line now that it has cooled off.

 

[LDF]

now that Kahun is coming down to earth, i think it is time to give that 1st line a jolt of some kind. now move Schm to that line as a winger for Toews.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

now that Kahun is coming down to earth, i think it is time to give that 1st line a jolt of some kind. now move Schm to that line as a winger for Toews.

Agree. There’s no reason to not try it. Especially if he is flying around and taking the puck away like crazy now that he’s back on the wing, as @Callidusblackhawk said.

Schmaltz should make that line better, and it gives Toews two legitimate top-6 players as linemates again. Something I’ve wanted to see since Hossa’s decline.

 

[BK]

For me I prefer him on wing because it seems like he forces more turnovers from that position. He's been flying around taking the puck from people like a maniac since he's been moved to wing. I would love to see him on the Toews line now that it has cooled off.

Makes sense but playing center allows for more opportunity to use that turnover forcing ability. I am more that fine with him playing with Cat and Toews on the wing though.