UPDATED CBS Radio Las Vegas will promote Golden Knights after all

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  1. TheLegend

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    Someone is feeling sour grapes.....


    http://www.ronfutrell.com/las-vegas-radio-group-blackballs-golden-knights-hockey-coverage/


     
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    What the hell even? I mean I know X107.5 was overdoing it with Raiders coverage even before the deal was finalized with barely any mention of the Golden Knights...but this is silliness. The whole point of this team for many people was to be a part of the community and give the city an identity beyond being a tourist town.
     
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    you would expect Burger King to freely advertise Big Macs? not sour grapes, it's all about money and competition, so let the team buy ads on CBS, as the article says, and then they may get coverage. radio is cut-throat today and this decision is perfectly reasonable.

    hopefully, early lesson learned for foley. he's been put on notice ... don't presume that everybody loves you, especially when you side against them. that sort of understanding will go a long way after the honeymoon is over and goodwill dissipates. i'll be very interested to watch how the various casinos behave with respect to this franchise over the next few years and whether they do or do not continue to support it. this is simply the first shot across his bow, many more to come and from all directions.
     
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    Except they're not competing for the same thing. This is more like if Burger King fired anyone who acknowledged that there's a Starbucks across the street.

    I'd expect a radio station contracted with the Kings to not speak glowingly about the Ducks, but to ignore the fact that there's another team a few miles away? That's too much, and that's the same sport within the same market.

    You can promote one team without pretending they're the only team that exists.
     
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    well, apparently the way things work in vegas is different. and foley will need to get used to that.

    i fully expect the casinos to eventually start playing hardball as well, it would be foolish to presume otherwise.
     
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    That's bizarre.

    I mean I get it - in a Canadian example Sportsnet doesn't exactly give great CFL coverage (TSN owning the broadcast rights), and TSN doesn't give great Blue Jays coverage (Sportsnet's parent owning the Blue Jays). But they're both still "sports" stations and they do give at least some level of coverage.
     
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    It's off-season on the ramp-up phase, and they're making a point in wake of a unfavorable decision by the VGK.

    J.B.King probably cc'd the local medias in his mail besides the employees.
     
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    The thing is, I actually think TSN's Jays coverage is pretty decent, when compared to SN's CFL coverage. Probably more out of necessity for the Toronto crowd.

    Here in Wpg, CJOB has the Bombers' broadcast while TSN1290 has the Jets. I find both stations are still completely fair in their coverage though. Outright ignoring seems harsh to me.
     
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    I think they are doing a disservice to themselves. There's going to be enough interest in the team that if a local sports radio chooses to ignore the only major franchise in town, people will go to the competition.

    I have never seen anything more petty in media in my life. Not a good look for CBS Radio.
     
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    Yeah. Absolutely absurd. So much for objectivity without bias in delivering news & programming to their audience, and the arrival of the Knights in Vegas is BIG NEWS to Southern Nevada, the Southwest & to the game of hockey, transcendent of just simply commercial interests. This just flys in the face of any media outlets core mandate in servicing its market.... I dont half wonder if someone doesnt file a complaint with the FCC. It just so blatantly goes against the grain, shallow, no integrity whatsoever. That unless your buttering our bread in some way we'll not consider you "newsworthy" and worse, like something right out of Orwell's 1984 were going to pretend you dont even exist. If anyone ever needed proof (as if) that the media isnt corporately controlled, shills for private & political interests & agendas, in a microcosm one need look no further than this. That executive with his memo, smoking gun right there. Absolutely sickening.
     
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    While true, The Jays are big enough right now TSN would be unwise to snub them. Rogers has the exclusive rights to the CHL though not has big, TSN pretty pretents it doesn't exsist until the Memorial Cup and would only give it attention based on top prospect for the upcoming draft.

    Back to Vegas, CBS being public is the surprising part but them not wanting to give the Knights the time of day is normal. It's the way traditional media has changed, they have less resources now so they won't give attention to something linked to their competitors.
     
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    CBS Radio Las Vegas has a few stations here in Las Vegas, but most of them are music and news talk stations. They've got one sports station that's affiliated with CBS Sports and carries (I think) Chicago Cubs games and shows like Jim Rome. It's not a huge loss, it just means the Knights will have to go through other companies to promote via radio. The majority of the sports stations here in town are owned by Lotus, which is who the Knights selected as their partner.

    In other words, I don't think it's a huge deal.

    CBS Radio Las Vegas does still have the Golden Knights listed under the sports heading on their site and links to all their stories on the Knights. I imagine that will stay the same, since the reasons the Knights picked Lotus are likely the same reason the Raiders will pick Lotus when it comes time to make that move. I can't imagine CBS will want to blackball both major league sports teams in town.

    It seems like sour grapes after CBS went all out helping promote the team and then lost the contract to Lotus. From what I heard, CBS's plan was to put the Knights on their news talk station which is AM only and broadcasts conservative talk and Coast to Coast AM during the course of their regular day whereas Lotus is putting the Knights on AM and FM, and can also use their three other sports stations to promote.

    CBS Sports Radio in Las Vegas also appears to only have national shows in their lineup without any local sports talk, so it's not like the Knights were going to have much coverage over there anyway.
     
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    I guess my only thought that since its such a minor sport anyway, the snub isnt that noticeable or could be justified?

    Im just wondering if there exists something as obvious as this ever before? Its not even a matter of it being a "minor" league and thus ignoring it, its the city's first big league team.
     
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    Any idea how strong the signals are of the AM stations in question? That also can factor into this. A stronger signal BTW means the station can be heard from farther away at night.
     
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    Las Vegas is an island in the middle of the desert, they could have an extremely strong signal and pick up an extra 100,000 or so, tops.

    To answer your question, I don't know. I don't listen to KXNT unless there's something really special on there, and the signal isn't great in my little corner of the valley. When the Knights picked Lotus, I'm sure it had to do with the fact that they've got almost the entire sports radio market in Las Vegas under their umbrella in addition to whatever money they were willing to pay.
     
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    CBS brass in New York apparently has ordered the Las Vegas station to stop the nonsense.

    Saying it was 'an error of judgement on our part' indicates somebody back in New York blew a gasket.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-a-radio-station-war/?utm_term=.e9b1172ceaa2
     
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    ^^^ ... so.... common sense prevailed afterall. :madfire:
     
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    KRLV's signal is suspect - especially on FM

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    KNXT isn't much better but then again once you get 15 miles out there isn't anything there anyways :laugh:

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    I suspect the phone call between CBS in New York and Vegas went something like this.

    There is a fine line we don't cross and you just did. If it happens again you don't have a job. :laugh:
     
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    In other words, our mistake was having the internal email leaked and we throw in "certain aspects" to obfuscate the issue.

    In other words, there will be some coverage however token on some stations ("for those formats and audiences").
     
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    By contrast, even after losing the radio rights to Rogers650, TSN1040 has pledged to have a full time reporter travel to all the Canucks road games.
     
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    Well as I've pointed out I pretty much exclusively have X107.5 on and in the morning that means the Dave and Mahoney show is on. They talk about sports quite often. It would be absurd if they weren't allowed to mention the results of a Golden Knights game or comment on how they've been doing lately. Long term it's not a big deal, no. But it's still an obscenely childish reaction to not getting a contract.

    The whole point of bringing pro sports to Las Vegas was to give our city more of an identity beyond being an auxiliary to one of the most popular tourist destinations in the world and to have something to support and rally behind beyond a minor league baseball team and UNLV's putrid athletics program running on the fumes of Tark's legendary Runnin Rebels team. The ideal situation is that the Raiders and Golden Knights will become talking points and something people get together to sit down and watch if not attending games. But more importantly a pro sports team is a talking point. To deny all entities within your media enterprise the right to discuss a pro sports team that represents your city because you lost a contract is absolutely ****ing pathetic. It goes beyond putting profits above serving your city, it's just pettiness.

    Their retraction means little to me as I'm positive it was only because of the backlash.
     
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    People still listen to local radio? SiriusXM called, and wants your subscription.
     
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    You beat me to it. Local radio? Pft. I was just about to post that threads like this are the reason I only listen to Sirius. Nellis AFB could get bombed by North Korea & I would be none the wiser. The radio in my car is always tuned to the Spectrum or First Wave on Sirius.

    If I want hockey coverage, it's NHL radio, channel 91! :)
     
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    lol, mine too.
     

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