Value of: Unsigned Mark Stone to Flames at TDL

[super6646]

Now it doesn't take a genius to know the Senators are in full scale rebuild, so I would assume other assets would likely be traded at some point. I know some see Stone as unmovable now, but there's still a cheap bastard in Ottawa who is just crazy. So what would Ottawa want for Stone assuming he doesn't want to resign by the trade deadline? I'd do something like:

Bennett
2019 1st
2020 2nd
Kylington

Keep in mind the Flame's carry the risk of him walking, so I think its a decent start (though explain what else the flame's could offer otherwise). I could see it as a good fit with Mark's brother in Calgary (I'd think he would resign), but I digress.

Edit: Lots of people thinking a conditional 1st would do it (him re-signing)... wow.

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[1989]

Seeing what Karlsson got, pretty sure a conditional 2021 4th round pick and a pending UFA prospect from 4 years ago will do it.

 

[Kybb79]

Flames are giving up too much for a rental.

 

[super6646]

Flames are giving up too much for a rental.

Think ts pretty fair for one of the best defensive top line RW's in the league. And I would think the Flame's would try to resign him.

 

[Kybb79]

Think's its pretty fair for one of the best defensive top line RW's in the league.

50% off in Ottawa.

 

[DFC]

Now it doesn't take a genius to know the Senators are in full scale rebuild, so I would assume other assets would likely be traded at some point. I know some see Stone as unmovable now, but there's still a cheap bastard in Ottawa who is just crazy. So what would Ottawa want for Stone assuming he doesn't want to resign by the trade deadline? I'd do something like:

Bennett
2019 1st
2020 2nd
Kylington

Keep in mind the Flame's carry the risk of him walking, so I think its a decent start (though explain what else the flame's could offer otherwise). I could see it as a good fit with Mark's brother in Calgary, but I digress.

So unrealistic. Send them a signed Jarome Iginla jersey (which you can immediately buy back on E-bay) and he's yours.

It's a rebuild, after all.

 

[super6646]

50% off in Ottawa.

Lets not beat Ottawa down too much here. Seriously, those guys have dealt with enough shit. I could see the 1st being conditional on him re-signing, but I doubt Ottawa accepts that.

 

[super6646]

So unrealistic. Send them a signed Jarome Iginla jersey (which you can immediately buy back on E-bay) and he's yours. It's a rebuild, after all.

Then please start listing values here. Its at the TDL and the 1st wouldn't be conditional. He's not gonna get a lot of value as a rental.

 

[DFC]

Then please start listing values here. Its at the TDL and the 1st wouldn't be conditional. He's not gonna get a lot of value as a rental.

Well. Send them a Craig Conroy jersey and they'll probably throw in Duchene.

 

[Kybb79]

Lets not beat Ottawa down too much here. Seriously, those guys have dealt with enough ****. I could see the 1st being conditional on him re-signing, but I doubt Ottawa accepts that.

Take out the 2nd and make it a conditional 1st if he signs in Calgary.

 

[super6646]

Well. Send them a Craig Conroy jersey and they'll probably throw in Duchene.

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[ottawa]

Think ts pretty fair for one of the best defensive top line RW's in the league. And I would think the Flame's would try to resign him.

Did you not just see what a full year of EK cost? Flames are giving up a lot here

 

[super6646]

Did you not just see what a full year of EK cost? Flames are giving up a lot here

Lol seriously. I thought this was pretty reasonable if not a bit too little in return. Guess that Karlsson trade has really made Dorion look like a fool.

 

[DictatorTots427]

This is almost as much as what SJ gave up for Karlsson lol, I think the flames are overpaying. I know people are joking around about value, but you could probably make the 1st conditional or something, this seems like a lot.

 

[zar]

That’s quite a bit for the Flames to give up for 20 NHL regular season games of Mark Stone. I wouldn’t do it if I were the Flames.

 

[DFC]

I doubt you'll get Ottawa fans weighing in until 2022 or something, when they end their boycott.

 

[Bounces R Way]

How about our deepest sympathies and our warmest regards?

 

[Some Other Flame]

Melnyk's/Dorion's incompetence notwithstanding, this is an absurd overpayment for what amounts to essentially a 2 month rental. This is just terrible for the Flames.

Longterm, the Flames don't really have the cap space to sign Stone for the 8M or so it'll take. You'd have to lose the other Stone, Frolik and maybe another player like Ryan. And then add the pieces you traded to acquire him and it's not worth it. You're losing too much depth. Better to just sign him as a free agent if Treliving can free up space by trading Frolik, Stone and other pieces for picks or prospects.

A more realistic and reasonable deal, again, ignoring the current GM's ineptitude, is something like a high pick, decent roster player with upside and a decent prospect with upside. That's the standard for a UFA rentals. So like say a 2019 first, Mangiapane and Kulak/Czarnik.

 

[Clayonator]

Now it doesn't take a genius to know the Senators are in full scale rebuild, so I would assume other assets would likely be traded at some point. I know some see Stone as unmovable now, but there's still a cheap bastard in Ottawa who is just crazy. So what would Ottawa want for Stone assuming he doesn't want to resign by the trade deadline? I'd do something like:

Bennett
2019 1st
2020 2nd
Kylington

Keep in mind the Flame's carry the risk of him walking, so I think its a decent start (though explain what else the flame's could offer otherwise). I could see it as a good fit with Mark's brother in Calgary (I'd think he would resign), but I digress.

Edit: Lots of people thinking a conditional 1st would do it (him re-signing)... wow.

You should have just given us that for Karlsson

 

[Flames67]

CGY has filled a RW requirement this off-season. The only way this sort of works out is if Lindholm and Neal move down a spot. Which isn't the worst thing, but you run into the wonderful problem of having too many skilled RW's that are now getting paid too much. I don't know how you could split this that signing Tkachuk and Stone to massive contracts next year works out.

I love the idea, but it won't happen

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

no we’ve traded enough futures.

Let’s just be patient and see what this core is.

 

[Jihadi Flames Fan]

I think Duchene would make more sense for the Flames. That'll enable us to drop Backlund down to 3C, where he belongs. Matt Duchene for one of our D prospects not named Valimaki + a conditional draft pick.

Come on Melnyk, you know you want to!

 

[West Coast Eagles]

Think of your worst offer, then halve it. That's what we would take. Oh and pick one of middling prospects and take them too for good measure

 

[McShogun99]

The cost for Calgary to acquire Stone will be a 2019 1st and 2nd plus Bennet.

The price for San Jose to acquire stone will be a 2020 4th, a 2021 7th, the rights to Pat Fallon and a conditional 2022 3rd if Stone signs with them.

 

[Zirakzigil]

That’s insane for a rental. No way he gets close to that at the deadline.

 

[Deen]

Would prefer to actually have a 1st this year. Stone for Kylington maybe.