Unlucky Journeymen with the worst "Team" Record

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  1. SealsFan

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    The type of player I'm looking for here has had the great fortune of playing in the NHL... but the misfortune of playing on several teams, all of them BAD.

    I submit at the head of the list, Nelson Pyatt. Seven seasons with three clubs who not only had losing records, but were among the worst in the league each season:

    73-74 Detroit 29-39-10
    74-75 Detroit 23-45-12 and
    Washington 8-67-5
    75-76 Washington 11-59-10
    76-77 Colorado 20-46-14
    77-78 Colorado 19-40-21
    78-79 Colorado 15-53-12
    79-80 Colorado 19-48-13

    cumulative W-L-T record: 144-397-97

    Ironically, the 77-78 Rockies made the playoffs but Pyatt didn't play in either of the two games they lost to Philly.
     
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    Next up, Craig Patrick had 8 pro seasons with only half a season with a team barely over .500. Starting with the California Golden Seals, natch, then he escaped the hell of the second-year Scouts to the WHA... only to have his team fold in mid-season. He found himself back in the NHL for three more campaigns with the losing Capitals.

    He did get in the two playoff games that St. Louis lost to Pittsburgh in the preliminary round in 74-75.

    1971-72 California 21-39-18
    1972-73 California 16-46-16
    1973-74 California 13-55-10
    1974-75 California 19-48-13
    1974-75 St. Louis 35-31-14
    1975-76 Kansas City 12-56-12
    1976-77 Minnesota Fighting Saints of WHA, folded mid-season, 1 game over .500
    1976-77 Washington 24-42-14
    1977-78 Washington 17-49-14
    1978-79 Washington 24-41-15
     
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    Denis Dupere was going to be a candidate until I saw that he started his career with four seasons with mediocre Leafs teams. After that, his career paralleled both Patrick and Pyatt, as he split 74-75 with Washington and wound up with St. Louis in the playoffs. From there he went to Kansas City the next season, then two seasons with Colorado when the franchise moved.
     
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    Players, Best and Worst "Total Regular Season W-L Dif." (1909-10/2010-11*, estimated numbers**)




    * - Leagues: NHA - PCHA - WHL/WCHL - NHL - WHA

    ** - "Player W-L Dif." = 82 * ("Player Games" * ("Team W" - "Team L") / "Team Games") / "Team Games"

    OTL equal Loss
    OTW equal WIN
    SOW and SOL equal Tie

     
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    Goalies, Best and Worst "Total Regular Season W-L Dif." (1909-10/2010-11*, Numbers adjusted for schedule length)



    OTL equal Loss
    OTW equal Win
    SOW and SOL equal Tie

    * - Leagues: NHA - PCHA - WHL/WCHL - NHL - WHA​
     
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    Wow! Hall of Famer Leo Boivin. :shakehead
     
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    Yeah, Gary Croteau was going to be the next guy on the list - twelve seasons and he spent 10 games in 69-70 with a good Detroit team... other than that...

    2 stints with bad Kings teams
    4 years with the Seals
    both seasons with Kansas City
    and 4 with the transplanted Rockies.

    Wow.

    Ironically, his rookie year with the Kings he was called up and scored 5 goals in 11 games as LA made the playoffs, then went on to score three times in 11 playoff games including the 7-game series with the Seals!

    By the way, thanks for the charts, Pnep
     
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    I think Walt McKechnie probably played with the most different number of bad teams (7), and for the most years (16).

    Played the first 4 years of the Minnesota Northstars franchise, all losing seasons although some were worse than others.

    3 years with the Seals

    3 years with awful mid-70's Detroit teams

    Split 77-78 between two losers, Washington and Cleveland

    2 seasons with the Rockies

    and finished his career with 2 seasons with awful early 80's Redwing teams...

    the only exceptions being two years with Toronto in which they went 34-33-13 and 35-40-5 and half a season with the 74-75 Bruins (40-26-14)...

    WOW

    That's some kind of career.
     
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    Walt McKechnie also deserves some recognition. 955 games in the regular season 15 in the playoffs. Made the playoffs as a late season call up as a rookie and only made them one other time. He moved around a lot and played for just about every bad team there was during the 70's and early 80's.
     
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    Denis Maruk? Played on 4 playoff teams in 14 years. Played on such dynasties as the California Seals, Cleveland Barons and Washington Capitals pre-Rod Langway. Minnesota was alright later in the 1980s but that was it. The knock on Maruk is that he had a reputation of caring more about his point totals than team success.

    How about Jay Bouwmeester? Up until 2008 I'd say Marc Savard too.
     
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    A recent example would be Jamie Heward.
     
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    Dude, please the bad nicknames for Chris Berman.....Bonnie Prince Charlie? I'm a big Bruins fan and I never once heard ANYONE, be it a fan, print media or tv announcer call Andy Moog "Peaches"......EVER. :shakehead
     
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