United We Stand

Discussion in 'Fugu's Business of Hockey Forum' started by Go Flames Go*, Dec 17, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. MarkZackKarl

    MarkZackKarl Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Messages:
    2,977
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Location:
    Ottawa
    Home Page:
    Congratulations, you are the latest member of my ignore list!
     
  2. Boy, you must really hate watching hockey. Crush them like Bugs?
    If only they could invent a game without players, then Go Flames Go could have it all.
     
  3. I love hockey always have always will, but what the players have done to the game, and there failure to recognize it and also how hard headed and arrogant they are makes me sick. Once there under control with the cap all will be well.
     
  4. YellHockey*

    YellHockey* Guest


    What the players have done to the game?

    Are you six years old? Because no one with any education would place all the blame squarely on the shoulders of the players.

    All they've done is play the sport they love and try to make as much money as they can doing so. There isn't one of us here who wouldn't do the same thing if they had the talent to be an NHL player.
     
  5. TexSen

    TexSen Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Schaefer..Beer..mmmm
    I think some of the responses on this thread appropriately point out very clearly that some people really need to get a sense of humor regarding this CBA/Union/NHL rubbish.............
     
  6. Charge_Seven

    Charge_Seven Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2003
    Messages:
    4,631
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What the players have done to the game? From your own link it clearly states the owners accept full responsibility for what THEY did.

    "They're blaming us for getting where we are and we're assuming full responsibility for that. But they're not agreeing with our cure for it."

    I suggest reading the document prior to posting it.
     
  7. ArtG

    ArtG Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    2,811
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    96
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    I wouldn't say the players have done this to the game but their failure to come to terms with the fact that the NHL is in serious trouble is mind boggling.
     
  8. NHLA is getting ownered!

    omg,i cant believe i just said that
     
  9. CalgaryThrasher

    CalgaryThrasher Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2003
    Messages:
    332
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Calgary Alberta Cana
    Home Page:
    1) The Owners need to admit publicly that they need Cost certainty to protect themselves from themselves. It's the truth.

    2) The NHLPA needs to suck it up and accept a Cap because it's the only thing that will keep this league going long term.

    Nuff said.
     
  10. Offering a 24% rollback sounds like they're not failing to come to terms with the state of the league. The players just disagree with the actual numbers and the solution to the problem. And I can't see Goodenow EVER fearing Bettman...in any way, shape, or form (not that its necessarily a good thing)!
     
  11. ArtG

    ArtG Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    2,811
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    96
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    they may be offering a rollback.. but they're still not guaranteeing anything...

    Goodenow isn't stupid. He wouldn't make such a radical offer if there wasn't something in it for the players -- and there is. It would be the same system and when free agency comes around again for big name players they'll just get big money again.. etc..
     
  12. PecaFan

    PecaFan Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2002
    Messages:
    8,939
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    Ottawa (Go 'Nucks)
    Home Page:
    Except the owners didn't ask for a rollback. Again, the PA "solves" a problem that the NHL didn't complain about.

    It's like complaining to the neighbours about the loud music, and they shovel the sidewalk. Gee, that's nice and all, but about that music...
     
  13. cws

    cws ...in the drink

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    GA
    Some people just love to argue!

    Makes little difference if they have a good understanding of one or many different aspects of the business world, or they get that "deer in the headlights" thing going whenever something even slightly technical is explained.

    You could say that some have over-blown egos (which is possible), but I'm still banking that most just love the cycle of; point, counter-point, ad nauseum. Not the worst thing in the world, but taken with a grain of salt as always.
     
  14. Shane

    Shane Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2003
    Messages:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Deadbeat
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Home Page:
    What's the point of the rollback? They're just setting the clock back a few years. And a few years down the road, we're just gonna be right back here again. Let's get this over with now, not put it off for a while.
     
  15. HckyFght*

    HckyFght* Guest

    Nobody has done anything to anybody. The players made out like bandits in the 90's and 00's and should thank their lucky stars...But it's simply time for a major correction. That being said, it is true that it's easier to give something than to take something away. The players will go along kicking and screaming but they will go along. Neither side should ever have used the word "never." It paints you in a corner from which there's no way out. Heads will now have to roll on the side which blinks first. All indications are it will be the union that goes down. And that is as it should be, it is after all, not their league.
    -HckyFght!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"