Under 23 World Cup

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  1. ktownhockey

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    Let just say this type of tournament existed..... and the first tournment happened this month what would be your rosters for whatever countries... here are my first two.... 82 Birthdays and down please and thank you.
    3 goalies, 8 defence, 14 forwards
    Canada:
    Goalies:
    Marc-Andre Fleury 84
    Pascal Leclaire 82
    Ray Emery 82
    Defence:
    Jay Bouwmeester 83
    Nick Shultz 82
    Dan Hamhuis 82
    Dion Phaneuf 85
    Steve Eminger 83
    Trevor Daley 83
    Carlo Colaiacovo 83
    Braydon Coburn 85
    Forwards:
    Jason Spezza 83
    Rick Nash 84
    Stephen Weiss 83
    Derek Roy 83
    Sidney Crosby 87
    Scott Hartnell 82
    Mike Cammalleri 82
    Steve Ott 82
    Jarett Stoll 82
    Nathan Horton 85
    Patrice Bergeron 85
    Matthew Lombardi 82
    Joffrey Lupul 83
    Scottie Upshall 83
    I know there's alot of big names left off here.. but all of these guys deserve to be there... I really like this team

    USA
    Goalies:
    Jason Bacasuhua 82
    Al Montoya 85
    Jim Howard 84
    Defence:
    Keith Ballard 82
    Mike Komesarek 82
    Mark Stuart 84
    Tim Gleason 83
    Ryan Suter 85
    AJ Thelen 86
    Ryan Whitney 83
    James Wisniewski 84
    Forwards:
    RJ Umberger 82
    David Steckel 82
    Patrick O'Sullivan 85
    Dan Frtische 85
    Zack Parise 84
    Ryan Kesler 84
    Jim Slater 83
    Rob Schremp 86
    Chris Higgins 83
    Eric Nystrom 83
    Brian McConnell 83
    Patrick Eaves 84
    Ben Eaves 82
    Dustin Brown 84

    Russia
    Goalies:
    Andrei Medvedev 83
    Vasily Koshechkin 84
    Rustam Sidikov 85
    Defence:
    Anton Volchenkov 82
    Fedor Tuijin 83
    Denis Gresbhakov 83
    Kiril Koltsov 83
    Maxim Kondatiev 83
    Denis Ezhov 85
    Igor Kniazev 83
    Sergey Golikov ??
    Roman Tesliuk 86
    Forwards
    Ilya Kovalchuk 83
    Alexander Frolov 82
    Alexandre Ovechkin 85
    Stan Chistov 83
    Alex Svitov 83
    Alexander Perezhogin 83
    Alex Polushin 83
    Evgenyi Malkin 86
    Nikolai Zherdev 84
    Igor Radulov 82
    Alexei Smirnov 82
    Timofei Shishkanov 83
    Andrei Tarathukin 83
    Igor Gregorenko 83

    MAKE YOUR TEAMS
    ILL MAKE MORE LATER
    COMMENTS TO.. LETS GET THIS STARTED

    who do you think would win?
     
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  2. Jason MacIsaac

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    Tallackson is a LW, not a defensmen. Picking him would be a wildcard, the guy does show up for big games.
     
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    Matt Stajan should be ahead of Lupul, Upshall, and arguably Roy and Stoll.
     
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    I can't complaine about Russia's forwards but I think Suglobov would be a nice choice since talented RW russian forwards are hard to come by.
     
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    I also think Konstantin Barulin would be in for Russia
     
  6. Jason MacIsaac

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    LW:
    Kovalchuk
    Chistov
    Frolov
    Semin
    Perezhogin
    Shishkanov

    RW:
    Zherdev
    Radulov
    Suglobov
    Grigorenko
    Tunik

    C:
    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Svitov

    This is the depth rankings according to russianprospects......one of the LW needs to play C.
     
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    Yeah I considered him... but in the end didn't pick him... its either way with russian goaltending though. They do not have strong tending
     
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    My mistake on Tackleson I remember him being a good player a few years back and an early pick.. thought he played D... my fault.... In his place on D I would put Mark Stuart... or Lee fardelau
    who do u think?
     
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    Everybody make their teams and say what the final medal standings would look like
    I'd say
    GOLD: CANADA
    SILVER: RUSSIA
    BRONZE: USA
     
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    I also dunno if Crsoby would make this team....I know he is good but these guys are like 5 years older then him.
     
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    I don't know much about tunik and don't think he'd be better than any of the players i named... and Semin I just don't like as a hockey player.
     
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    I love Stajan and the leafs.... but Stajan isn't as good as any of the aformentioned..

    if this was 83's and down he would be on this team for sure...
     
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    Kovalchuk-Ovechkin-Zherdev
    Semin-Frolov-Chistov
    Shishkanov-Malkin-Grigorenko
    Perezhogin-Svitov-Suglobov
     
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    People seem pretty high on suglobov??? I am not terribly firmiliar with him... let me know about him??
     
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    Team Sweden (70% skill now, 30% upside)


    G
    Henrik Lundqvist
    Magnus Ã…kerlund
    Christopher Heino-Lindberg

    D
    Johan Fransson
    Lars Jonsson
    Tobias Enström
    Daniel Fernholm
    Oscar Hedman
    Nicklas Grossman
    Simon Skoog
    Staffan Kronwall


    F
    Alexander Steen
    Fredrik Sjöström
    Loui Eriksson
    Carl Söderberg
    Robert Nilsson
    Johannes Salmonsson
    Yared Hagos
    Jonas Johansson
    Martin Samuelsson
    Andreas Jämtin
    Jens Karlsson
    Tim Eriksson
    Jonas Nordquist
    Joel Lundqvist


    Loui Eriksson - Alexander Steen - Fredrik Sjöström
    Robert Nilsson - Carl Söderberg - Johannes Salmonsson
    Martin Samuelsson - Yared Hagos - Jonas Johansson
    Andreas Jämtin - Tim Eriksson - Jens Karlsson

    spares: Jonas Nordquist, Joel Lundqvist

    Johan Fransson - Nicklas Grossman
    Lars Jonsson - Daniel Fernholm
    Tobias Enström - Oscar Hedman

    spares: Staffan Kronwall, Simon Skoog
     
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    This would be my team USA:

    G
    Montoya
    Howard
    Bacashihua

    D
    Suter
    Komisarek
    Whitney
    Gleason
    Ballard
    Stuart
    Thelen
    Welch

    F
    Parise
    O'Sullivan
    Schremp
    Brown
    Fritsche
    Umberger
    Kesler
    Stafford
    Higgins
    Eaves
    Wheeler
    Jessiman
    Slater
    Hennessy

    Missed the cut
    Schneider
    Wisniewski
    Nystrom
    Pineault

    I would consider guys like Johnson and Kessel, but they're a bit too young yet.
     
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    Only corrections i'd make is having Eric Staal in the lineup in place of perhaps Crosby, Jarrot Stoll, or Matt Lombardi. Perhaps even Nathan Horton. Eric Staal is just as talented as a lot of these players on the list, I honestly don't see how he gets overlooked.

    Also, it would be hard to not consider Josh Harding or Cam Ward for one of the goaltending slots. Leclaire is older, but he's also hit a bit of a rough stretch in his development. Not saying he won't turn out, but there are more deserving names out there right now in my opinion.
     
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    Good size at 6`1 200, explosive speed and great mobility. Very aggresive on the forecheck, sometimes too much. All round offensive game, considered a sniper. Unlike many goal scorers Suglobov has an edge. He has a hard shot and can beat almost anyone one on one. A very hard worker. Isn't all that developed defensivly. He isn't that good a plymaker, he sometimes tries to do it by himself. He was once considered to have no hockey sense, things have changed and I would consider it above average. Will make the devils with a solid camp next year or rip up the AHL with Parise if there is a lockout :)
     
  19. Where is Rangers LW prospect Marcus Jonasen? He is captain of the Tri-City Americans in the WHL and was born in April 23, 84. His stars are
    Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM
    2003-04 Tri-City Americans WHL 43 12 14 26 28
    Tri-City Americans playoffs WHL 11 4 4 8 8
     
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    No he shouldn't.

    And I'm not certain how Eric Staal was left off this team.
     
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    Grossman on the first pairing? I know he was somewhat of a project, maybe even somewhat of a reach being taken in the 2nd round, but is this more or less an indication of how weak Swedish' upcoming defense is or does it mean that Grossman is simply better than most have throught around here?
     
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    Ummmmmmm they aren't nice numbers in the WHL.
     
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    Grossman is only there because I think he would be a good fit (granted he becomes a fine player in the future) playing with Fransson. He is probably not the in the top 40 if you look at Swedish defensemen under the age of 23, but I am trying to build a team here and a stay-at-home defenseman beside a flashy Fransson would be a good fit. :)
     
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    how familiar are you with the Swedish players that are in fact listed there? I'm asking you this because it is indeed more astounding to think that Jonasén is a top 14 Swedish U23-forward than not. Not saying he can't become a fine player :)
     
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    Thanks I like people's opinions..... now i'l justify my picks

    The tournament would be held right now.... Lombardi before his concussion was one of the flames best players in the playoffs... his speed and overall play were enough to earn a spot on my checking line with stoll and ott....
    Staal.. was my hardest decision... it came down to him and horton... Crosby is too talented not to play on this team... IMO
    Horton had a better year until he got injured therefore I have him the spot.. i also think horton is better on the wing than Staal.. and thats where id have him playing..

    Leclaire has played excellent for Canada in the past and im sure he could do it again... I was so close to picking Harding as well.... but in the end Leclaires WJHC starting experience and pro experience got him the job...

    thanks for contributing though...
     
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