Confirmed with Link: Umberger Bought Out (June 2016)

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Flyers' started by Danko, Jun 16, 2016.

View Users: View Users
  1. Striiker

    Striiker Hot dogs are sandwiches

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2013
    Messages:
    36,535
    Likes Received:
    21,013
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    I know, and I'm saying that most of them are likely a better choice than Umberger because I assume most of them are younger and most of them probably have at least one thing they're good at, even if it's just faceoffs or fighting or whatever. Umberger doesn't have any special skills so there's no reason to pick him over any one of those younger players.
     
  2. CanadianFlyer88

    CanadianFlyer88 Knublin' PPs

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2004
    Messages:
    20,279
    Likes Received:
    1,642
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Van City
    A little surprised that Umberger was bought out, but if it makes the negotiations with Schenn and Gudas easier for Hextall, I can see why it had to happen.
     
  3. kingjmusicman

    kingjmusicman Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
  4. Rebels57

    Rebels57 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    35,122
    Likes Received:
    20,125
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Gender:
    Male
    I am not at all surprised that Umberger was bought out, but I sure as hell am happy!

    He is a completely worthless player, and his $3 million in savings can be used immediately to either sign a better replacement or give us additional cap space as a cushion for after Schenn and Gudas are re-signed. The $1.6 million loss in 16-17 is a small price to pay for this.

    After Lecavalier officially retires, we will have roughly $12.75 million in cap space now to re-sign them. Schenn will get around $5 million. Gudas should be around $3 million. That leaves us with $4.75 million to sign Cousins, maybe (but hopefullynot) Manning, and a forward upgrade. If the cap looks tight again after everyone is re-signed, we can still try to move Streit or Read and free up an extra $3.6 to $5.5.

    We have a lot of flexibility.
     
  5. tymed

    tymed Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,122
    Likes Received:
    160
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Canada
    Can't believe how useless he was coming back but he did it in class and without complaining. I'll never forget the guy killing MTL in the playoffs. Happy for him to make a bunch of money and for us to move on from his contract and roster blocking space.
     
  6. LegionOfDoom91

    LegionOfDoom91 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2013
    Messages:
    46,048
    Likes Received:
    17,237
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    My guess is the NMC pretty much sealed his fate. IIRC early this past year when the Flyers had a run on injuries Hextall had to do some maneuvering to make things work with Vinny because of his NMC. I believe Vinny actually got into he lineup because they couldn't afford to call up Cousins or Leier.
     
  7. Garbage Goal

    Garbage Goal Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    20,349
    Likes Received:
    745
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Good. That cap hits easy to deal with when a team isn't a Cup contender and isn't sinking with a contract like Vinny's.

    Kind of amazing how much dead weight has been trashed in the last year or so. As far as Umberger goes, it's a shame. Was one of my favorite players when he was with us originally. Great heart-and-soul guy by all accounts.
     
  8. Sniped

    Sniped Snowballs at Santa

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2013
    Messages:
    4,891
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Location:
    Philly
    Adios Bumberger.

    We all knew this was coming.
     
  9. Mr Black

    Mr Black Flyers-76ers-Eagles

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2011
    Messages:
    4,735
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Location:
    Ross Ice Shelf
    Well said. Quoted for emphasis.
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2016
  10. AaronTrieu

    AaronTrieu Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2008
    Messages:
    4,408
    Likes Received:
    487
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Umberger united us by giving us a guy to collectively rag on. Who will be the guy next year? Manning still?

    Thanks for your services umberger. Always a team guy and conducted himself with class. His purpose the whole time was to dump some salary so he is finally fulfilling his duties.
     
  11. Flyerfan4life

    Flyerfan4life Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    22,911
    Likes Received:
    1,830
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Richmond BC, Canada
    if the team seriously does resign Manning over basicly any other player in the NHL pool of available talent, then YES..

    tables will be flipped...
     
  12. onlylordsvsmorebp

    onlylordsvsmorebp Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,451
    Likes Received:
    2,543
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    CANADA
    just glad umberger is gone...it will be nice when we can say same thing about streit and read.
     
  13. GKJ

    GKJ Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    139,995
    Likes Received:
    2,330
    Trophy Points:
    232
    It is the right move. Taylor Leier is knocking on the door, and we should be able to find another forward under a million dollars, if necessary. The dead money next year shouldn't come into play.
     
  14. backburner

    backburner Registered User

    Joined:
    May 6, 2011
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Location:
    NJ, USA
    what is his play style 2-way?
     
  15. GKJ

    GKJ Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    139,995
    Likes Received:
    2,330
    Trophy Points:
    232
    3rd line upside, imo.
     
  16. Rebels57

    Rebels57 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    35,122
    Likes Received:
    20,125
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Gender:
    Male
    High energy/effort two way player with some creativity and good wheels but lacks size/strength and isnt an elite finisher.
     
  17. trostol

    trostol Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2012
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    610
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Location:
    Philadelphia
    now if Hexy can find a sucker to take Read
     
  18. Striiker

    Striiker Hot dogs are sandwiches

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2013
    Messages:
    36,535
    Likes Received:
    21,013
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Leier is kinda like a Raffl-type, I think. Doesn't have top 6 skill but wouldn't kill a line of put there for a short amount of time. Smart, fast, gritty, exactly what you want in the bottom 6.
     
  19. LegionOfDoom91

    LegionOfDoom91 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2013
    Messages:
    46,048
    Likes Received:
    17,237
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    I think a Read-type (not the peak Read who was a 20/20 guy & a top sixer) would be more of an adapt comparison than Raffl. Raffl's a bigger player by a good margin who plays a more heavier game than Leier. Raffl's biggest asset is his strength on & off the puck. Leier more so depends on his skating & speed but will get dirty if needed like Read despite not having the ideal frame for it.
     
  20. Striiker

    Striiker Hot dogs are sandwiches

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2013
    Messages:
    36,535
    Likes Received:
    21,013
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Yeah, you're probably right on that one. I don't expect him to hit 20 goals like Read used to, but if he can PK and score a bit then I'd be thrilled.
     
  21. FLYguy3911

    FLYguy3911 Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    25,785
    Likes Received:
    7,804
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Think he's a 4th liner on a good team that can slide up in the lineup in a pinch.
     
  22. Alchemy

    Alchemy Mind Control

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2006
    Messages:
    15,441
    Likes Received:
    352
    Trophy Points:
    155
    I really hope Read is shipped out this summer. He's not the same player in his first couple of seasons. He's a soft perimeter foward.
     
  23. Cyborg LeClair

    Cyborg LeClair Thank You Mr. Snider

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2011
    Messages:
    3,915
    Likes Received:
    82
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Occupation:
    Carnivore
    Location:
    Jurassic Park
    Leier reminds me of Eric Wellwood. I was very excited about that guy as a fast bottom sixer before he cuts his tendon and had to retire
     
  24. Grare

    Grare Registered Factor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Lost a lot of intangibles and structure with this departure, those are big shoes to fill so I hope we find someone up to the task
     
  25. Freddy The Fog

    Freddy The Fog Don't live in the fast lane. Live on the off ramp

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    275
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Not surprised. This was planned the day Umberger returned here (unless he scored 20+ goals...but even then....). To all the Hartnell trade naysayers...the cap and and the expansion draft is why this makes sense.

    Hextall is not interested in short term gains. He's wants to build a contender the right way (and I hope ownership still allows this to happen).

    The future is one year closer now and Hextall's decision making just got a little easier. Well done.

    He was a good soldier in his day. Enjoy retirement Umberger.
     

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"