Confirmed with Link: Umberger Bought Out (June 2016)

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  1. Danko

    Danko ...the way she goes

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    Per @BroadStBull on twitter ( Sam C) and Wayne Fish

     
  2. Flyerfan4life

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    nice..


    couple more dead weights and NO resigns to go..


    get 'er done Hexy...

    ps still no word about coaching staff changes ??? jebus i hope we arent headed into another season with the same staff...
     
  3. Danko

    Danko ...the way she goes

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    Can someone please show the breakdown of how this will affect the cap? I'm horrible with buyouts.
     
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    Laveuglette Le meilleur receveur de passes de tous les temps

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    How much do we save, 3 mil?
     
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  7. Hiesenberg

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    Easiest way to look at it.

    He costs us 1.6MM this year and 1.5MM next year.

    Savings of 3MM this year and a cost of 1.5MM next year.
     
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    So it was basically

    4.6M this year or 1.6 this year and 1.5 next year?

    I guess this only depends on Hextall's plans. Wants more flexibility this year at the expense of 1.5M next year. I'm fine with it.
     
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    That 3 million and one of our 2nd rounders could fetch us a good #3 C in a trade.
     
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    Umberger's second go around with the Flyers was disgraceful. Happy days he's gone a year earlier.
     
  11. Hiesenberg

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    That seems like a poor use of funds. 3MM + a 2nd Round pick for a 3rd Line Center?

    Have we given up on Cousins being that guy?
     
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    3rd line center at 3M is fine. It is an important position. Cousins can have other roles.
     
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    I just don't see Cousins as a center on a shut-down line--particularly not if it also has Laughton. They really need a vet there to take some of the defensive zone starts from the top six.
     
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    I don't think the Flyers are currently in a favorable position to do that in their cap situation. Mostly because of Read.
     
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    If they need a shutdown, its going to be Couturier, regardless of situation or line. There is a strong possibility the Flyers will not have a better defensive C on this team for a long time.
     
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    The Flyers still won't have a ton of cap space. With Vinny (probable 250 thousand penalty) and Umberger, the Flyers will have $13.4 to sign 4 forwards and 2 defensemen. Gudas and Schenn will probably eat up close to $8 of that leaving only around $5.4 with 4 spots to fill.
     
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  17. Jack de la Hoya

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    In terms of match-ups against top lines, I agree. But they should be able to put together another line that can take hard defensive minutes. Giroux really shouldn't need to play that role night in and out.
     
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    It's more about having a bottom six that is at least capable in their own zone. As it is right now, the top six is forced into being used in more defensive situations.
     
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    I see both sides. Yes, the bottom 6 needs to be better. It seems like the the 4th line will stay in tact. 3rd line is question mark. If Raffl goes down to 3rd line and Laughton plays the other wing, then do you try to upgrade from Cousins? Cousins goes to 4th line? Benched?

    I'm just thinking, I don't see Hextall signing or acquiring a 3MM dollar 3rd line C. Not right now.
     
  20. God Bless Mr Coffee

    God Bless Mr Coffee Ah, I think there were braver deeds.

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    Much as I hate paying 1.5 for nothing the next two seasons, expansion draft made this so necessary.
     
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    Schenn* - Giroux - Simmonds
    Raffl - Couturier - Voracek
    Laughton - ????? - Read
    Bellemare - ???? - VdV
    ???

    MDZ - Gudas*
    MacDonald - Gostisbehere
    Provorov - Streit
    Schultz

    Looks like 3 spots, and I suspect that Schenn and Gudas come in close to $7.5m, leaving $5m

    3C = $3m
    Cousins = ~925k
    13th forward = 700k?

    That still leaves about a half million, no?
     
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    No. But we need a defensively responsible C to help out our top 2 C.

    Reality is, we use our top 2 offensive lines in defensive situations because the bottom 6 cannot be trusted. So then the bottom 6 get way more offensive zone start than they should instead of being in defensive roles. We are ass backwards.

    Cousins would drop to the #4 C role and Belle moved to wing and he can hopefully keep developing. But right now, our bottom 6 doesn't provide scoring, and doesn't provide good D. That needs to change.

    We have wingers coming from within who will help, but no C. That's why I would love to draft a C with our first 2 picks, and if we can't find a #3 C thru FA, trade a 2nd if we need to.

    And we don't need to spend the 3mill on a #3C. I was only saying that with that 3million, we have more flexibility to fill a very big need for us.
     
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    Cousins is not a good #3c not even close, he's there due to the lack of depth
     
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    I don't think Hextall wants to run that class if he doesn't feel like he has too.
     
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    RJ was a good solider just didn't produce in any way. I hope buying him out doesn't affect us too much next year.
     

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