Uh, when did we start trapping?

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  1. Brock Radunske

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    Is this new, because I don't ever remember us collapsing so much when we're up!
    I'm not complaining (especially after the event that shall not be named) but I'm just a little surprised.
    Or is this just because Randy felt we were being out-chanced in this particular game?
     
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    I think it was just because of the situation last night. Back-to-back to open the season against a rested, fired up Flyers team in their home opener. Carlyle realized that we were pretty lucky to be up late, and would rather try to eke out the win or, worst case scenario, the single point.
     
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    It was quite a boring game last night regardless of the win.

    Not that it matters as long as we racked up the 2 points which is all that matters!
     
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    Yeh I agree.
    I love the points but I hope the guys start getting them a little more convincingly going forward!
     
  5. TorMapleJays

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    Well, Dion would have fired the puck into shin pads trying to score the 3rd goal, where Franson, dumped the puck in the opposite corner which directly lead to Bollands 2nd goal of the game. Its the little things that win you hockey games. And Jonathan Bernier..
     
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    I honestly don't care if they play a hard trap game. I want to win and don't care how we do it.
     
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    They did this last season. I love every minute of it.
     
  8. Ace88*

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    The best part is that we've been so starved for successful coaching that most of you guys don't realize that literally every team in the league does this when protecting a lead.
     
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    I think it had more to do with Carlyle adjusting to the Flyers zone entry strategy.
     
  10. Brock Radunske

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    Haha, fair enough.
    Sweet Jesus Wilson was a terrible coach. I think Burke would still be here if he manned up sooner.
     
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    Which was weird...I mean, having the whole team throw on the breaks at the blue line and drop it for Giroux and having him dance in looked good...once. But seriously, what were they trying to accomplish? All we had to do was plug the lane, his shots never made it through and they never had anyone on side to dig out the rebounds. Poor asset management on the Flyers' part...
     
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    it's nice having a great coach
     
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    Protecting a Lead 101.
     
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    We're in the lead, you defend the lead, what do you want? Ron Wilson days of playing run and gun entertaining hockey and ending up in a loss? Gotta play defence hanta yo.
     
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    Yes. Stack the blueline, and crowd the puck carrier and you will stop the flyers zone entry.

    The few times they got in on good chances off the rush were when the puck carrier was 1-on-1 and beat his man. Luckily even in those cases the D-men were quick to back up and stop the rush. Glad Randy is catching these things now, it's wonderful to have a coach that adjusts.

    We will be playing "the trap" when necessary.
     
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    Claude is overrated, and he doesn't back check, he was floating at the red line during the their PK that Bolland scored. Hard work wins games.
     
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    I will take 82 low scoring trap games if we win them.
     
  18. wulfio*

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    probably right after the leafs blew a 3 goal lead in the 3rd period of game 7.
     
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    Exactly! Wilson's team was always good at scoring, but broke down in final periods. He never seemed to believe in adjusting your play style to protect a lead late in the game. Its being down a goal or two in 3rd periods where opposing teams start playing desperation style hockey and start really turning on the jets. If you try to match them in intensity with an offensive style, protecting the lead is very variable.

    What i mean by that is, you're more likely to score a goal because the other team will be willing to take more risks to get the equalizer, but you won't be helping yourself either as you're also more vulnerable. If you take on a more defensive strategy, you can torment the other team and frustrate them by making zone entry very difficult. This of course makes it much more difficult for the opposing team to score, in my experience it also makes it more likely the opposing team takes a stupid penalty. The best part of it is that as zone entry becomes more and more difficult, opposing teams usually either play more of a dump and chase, or they try to get fancy with the zone entry. That again increases the chances of a turnover and playing into our Leafs' particular strength: the transition game, giving us more chances to score and pull ahead even more.

    With the experience many of our players unfortunately had to endure last year, implementing this strategy early, and using it every chance we get will make it less likely that we as fans will have to experience that again (at least in the short term).

    Hurray for having a coach who actually understands strategy and isn't too stubborn to change it if it isn't working! :handclap:
     
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    If we are winning with it, why are you complaining?? play what ever way you want just win us the games and im good!
     
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    we play a trap game when we are away more or less than a home game... w/e however the wins come!
     
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    I'd rather win the cup with the trap than lose as an exciting team in the first round.
     
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    Don't like when they get hemmed in their zone for long periods of time, especially when they are behind in the game. I know it's the trait of zone coverage, but when it comes as a result of a givaway, it drives me mad. I'm fine with it as long as they cut down the givaways, they were playing well after getting the goal to tie the game. Franson plays where he was squeezing guys out as the enter the zone were great. Stop the rush, don't fool around with it and transition the other way. Carlyle was saying he wanted a more puck possession game, hopefully we see less of the minutes of play in their own zone leading to fatigued players.
     
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    Boring? I'm pretty sure we trapped in game 7 Vs Boston and it was exciting as heck. Leaf fans should know from that one game alone that trapping with a lead does not equal a win.
     
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    did you love it in the 3rd period in game 7 in Boston when the leafs completely changed their game plan, sat back and gave up 4 goals and lost?

    I hate it.
     

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