Euro: UEFA Euro 2020 Draw

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  1. HajdukSplit

    HajdukSplit Registered User

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    I did a way too early prediction thing and my semifinals were France vs. Italy & Spain vs. Netherlands, the two groups which didn't have the best third place team was A & E. Out of the teams not considered favorites if my scenario plays out I could see Denmark possibly making a surprise run to the semis, winning a one off game against the Dutch in Baku isn't impossible. I was tempted at having Portugal eliminated in the groups as I could see them struggling in the opener against Iceland (who I believe will win their playoff), if they fail to win that I doubt they go through but had them winning. My assumption is the playoff winners will be Iceland, Slovakia, Norway and Georgia, with only Norway going through to the knockout rounds.

    A: Italy, Turkey
    B: Belgium, Denmark, Russia
    C: Netherlands, Ukraine, Austria
    D: England, Croatia, Norway
    E: Spain, Sweden
    F: France, Germany, Portugal

    R16
    Belgium vs. Portugal
    Italy vs. Ukraine
    France vs. Russia
    Croatia vs. Sweden
    Spain vs. Austria
    England vs. Germany (hard to call, my head said England but they have massive expectations this time and tend fail when that happens :D)
    Netherlands vs. Norway
    Turkey vs. Denmark

    QF

    Belgium vs. Italy (maybe overrating Italy but I think they will have a good tournament)
    France vs. Croatia
    Spain vs. Germany
    Netherlands vs. Denmark (was tempted to go with Denmark here, I don't rate the Dutch as highly as the bookies but their path if they win the group is very manageable)

    SF

    Italy vs. France
    Spain
    vs. Netherlands

    F

    France vs. Spain (was tempted to go with Spain but think France would win this matchup)

    However if the last Euros are anything to go by this is all pointless :D The games will be very cautious in the group phase and in Euro 2016 four of the six Pot 4 teams made the knockout phase while four seeded teams didn't even win their group. Also hard to know without the playoff teams yet, I'm more hoping Croatia plays one of NOR/SCO rather than the wildcard of SRB :D
     
  2. maclean

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    For sake of having it in the thread (and so I don't have to look it up), what's the system for advancing? Top two plus a certain number of the third place teams or all top three in group?
     
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    Top two +the 4 best third place teams
    6+6+4=16
     
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    32 is too many when you only have 54 nations.

    16 was fine
     
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    Maybe we should go to 64, all European nations + 10 invites, do a straight knockout tournament NCAA style and do away with these silly time wasting qualifying rounds
     
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    32 would be better for the group stage because you wouldn't be able to go through with 3 draws.

    They don't care about the game enough to go back to the perfect format 16 teams...
     
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    I think that in this tournament-format the last round matches of the group-stage, all 12 of them, should be played on the same day at the same time.

    Of course that doesn't happen but as the groups finish on different days the groups which finish later have an advantage of knowing what whether finishing third in their group is going to be enough to go through.
     
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    24 teams is the worst plain and simple, this qualifying format was the worst possible as well, dark days in international play indeed.
     
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    Yeah, 24 is a bit of an odd # IMO. Can't go to 32 because of there only being 54 nations, as was said before 16 is the right number for teams here.
     
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    Why is having more teams such a big deal?
     
  11. Pouchkine

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    Makes for more boring matches with weak teams playing for the 0-0 and with 16/24 going through they do it even more.

    16 is ideal and 32 would be better than 24.
     
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    16 was perfect for euros. Unfortunately it’s all about money.
     
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    Waters the tourney down.

    Too easy to qualify, and too many meh groups and games in the tourney itself...

    Before it was a big thing when middle country like Denmark/Sweden qualified, now it would be dissapointing if they did not.
     
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    Please no. Every great run in a big tournament we have ends when we meet France.
    Let them be knocked out by Belgium or someone and then we can play Belgium.
     
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    I think the argument about quality is a bit arrogant, if it's a solely European tournament then qualifying for it should be possible for significantly more countries than for the World Cup.

    However, I think having some 3rd placed teams survive the group stage does hurt the dynamics of the tournament so a different format would be worth considering. Optimally, just make it a tournament of 32 and forget the Nations League qualifying nonsense.
     
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    As a non-neutral fan, the only thing I care about is the Czech Republic advancing as far as possible. What makes me sad about this expanded version is that even so I'm not sure we can do it
     
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    I'm happy with all of it. More games to watch and more countries invested.
     

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