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I'm surprised at the lack of gulf in talent on the score lines.
I'm surprised at the lack of gulf in talent on the score lines.
That could mean two things :England fan was given two months in jail for throwing a plastic pint glass, according to the media. No Russian arrests though.
That could mean two things :
1/ French justice clearly biased, lets russians go untouched, blames english only who clearly didn't do anything wrong. Clear incompetence here.
2/ The judge actually has facts, while you're out of the country, basing yourself on english articles, written by english "journalists" trying to diminish english influence in the riots.
Gee, I wonder which option is the good one...
It's funny because I took a look at the newspapers from all over Europe after the weekend incidents, and every single one of them blamed both russians and english.
Except the english newspapers, who in their majority blamed "russian thugs".
98Outside the stadium there is plenty of blame to go around. Anyone making it the English were the main problem seem to be basing it solely on 20+ years ago, the scum element of the English support were as much to blame as the other parties involved in the trouble. There is no doubt the English fans were part of the problem away from the stadium.
Ultimately, as a neutral observer, I'm pinning the bulk of this ****show on the French. You can't have that level of policing at a game that everyone knew was extremely high risk from the moment the draw was made.
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See a trend? English fans making trouble at internationall football tournament.
20+ years?
To be fair, security should have been better ahead of this game
The problems in the stadium was down to 2 things... the Russians and the French. The standard of security at the stadium was a disgrace, and sadly there was the thug element from the Russian supporters that were over. The English really didn't do much wrong at the stadium.
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Yes, let's blame the police rather than the thugs.
Do you even know what you're on about.
Oh big deal I meant 2006 I wrote 2008.
Makes a whole huge difference, right?
Nah, only 120 english hooligans arrested in Gelsenkirchen.I don't recall anything happening in 2006.
Oh big deal I meant 2006
Erh yeah I did. Just like I wrote a few pages back.Sure you did Why didn't you include 2010 while you were at it.
Yes, let's blame the police rather than the thugs.
Where did you get this expert opinion, were you at the stadium? Honestly I find it hard to swallow such self-assured opinions from people drawing only on the (English-speaking) media.
How do you know what the English did or didn't do? The English were "just" shouting drunken taunts at the Russians but didn't "really" want to fight? I'm not apologising for the actions of the Russians and they deserve any punishment they get, but saying the Russians and French did everything wrong while the British were poor innocent sheep is pretty far-fetched.
Nah, only 120 english hooligans arrested in Gelsenkirchen.
Peanuts really.
Police in Gelsenkirchen said many of the detentions were preventative and added that all of the fans have already been released.
In total 180 fans were held and the others were mainly Germans, a spokesman said.