U.S. National Team Thread VI #fireJurgen

[Fro]

if US/Mexico was in Columbus we wouldn't have lost...

 

[Brock Anton]

Looks like the Copa America next year is a go. Final to be played in the Rose Bowl.

http://www.espnfc.us/copa-america/s...rica-centenario-set-to-go-ahead-in-us-sources

 

[Ugmo]

Looks like the Copa America next year is a go. Final to be played in the Rose Bowl.

http://www.espnfc.us/copa-america/s...rica-centenario-set-to-go-ahead-in-us-sources

That is awesome.

Not to be a broken record, but I hope we get rid of Klinsmann asap so we don't embarrass ourselves in this thing.

 

[Ugmo]

While we're at it, MLS has been really horrible for Giovinco's career and form, huh?

Good thing he's not taking any advice from Klinsmann.

 

[Basement Cat]

While we're at it, MLS has been really horrible for Giovinco's career and form, huh?

Good thing he's not taking any advice from Klinsmann.

So MLS is not beneath Italy, Colombia, or Ghana...all of which are more talented teams than the USMNT...but somehow it's beneath Klinsi

 

[HajdukSplit]

Looks like the Copa America next year is a go. Final to be played in the Rose Bowl.

http://www.espnfc.us/copa-america/s...rica-centenario-set-to-go-ahead-in-us-sources

I still doubt the strongest teams will be selected, Brazil have the Olympics and Neymar will get selected for that. While only three overage players can be selected for the Olympics surely they will be the better players. Tim Vickery, South American football correspondent, seems to think the same as well, with Peru already announcing they will likely send a U23 squad

Though one argument for these teams brining their best squads is CONMEBOL didn't schedule World Cup qualifiers in June like they have in the past

 

[chasespace]

Adrian Heath for USMNT manager

 

[HajdukSplit]

looks like the format of the Olympic qualifier with Colombia has changed, it will be a two-leg playoff in March with Colombia hosting the first leg. In the past it was a single game playoff

 

[Brock Anton]

This is becoming a clownshow.

Despite recent losses, Jurgen Klinsmann remains the U.S. men’s national team coach and technical director, but multiple sources say that Klinsmann’s duties in the latter area have become more ceremonial than before.

Over the past year, U.S. Soccer’s chief commercial director Jay Berhalter—the brother of Columbus Crew SC coach Gregg Berhalter—has started taking over a lot of the day-to-day technical director duties. Berhalter even called an important meeting in Chicago in August that did not include Klinsmann.

People on the inside have different views about it. One said Berhalter is a smart guy who gets things done. Another said if you’re going to give Klinsmann the technical director job you should let him do it without interference. Communication between Berhalter and Klinsmann is described as “not good.” One insider used the term “power struggle.”

Klinsmann also pulled a Mourinho

That's not all of the behind-the-scenes happenings involving Klinsmann. In the last week, Klinsmann fired head trainer Sue Falsone. Falsone had been in the job for a year after having the same role for the Los Angeles Dodgers. I’m told that, among other things, Klinsmann was not happy with the way she dealt with Alejandro Bedoya’s illness that kept him out of the USA's CONCACAF Cup playoff against Mexico and friendly against Costa Rica.

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/201...soccer-jay-berhalter-jason-kreis-vieira-nycfc

 

[Ugmo]

Fire Klinsmann banner for the Saint Louis qualifier.... they're three-quarters of the way there!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fire-klinsmann-airplane-banner/x/12523315#/

I donated a couple of bucks.

 

[chasespace]

Fire Klinsmann banner for the Saint Louis qualifier.... they're three-quarters of the way there!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fire-klinsmann-airplane-banner/x/12523315#/

I donated a couple of bucks.

Not a fan of this. Boo Klinsmann when he comes out and let that be it. Having a banner circle the stadium is just going to upset the players even more.

 

[Ugmo]

Having a banner circle the stadium is just going to upset the players even more.

Why? Or why would that upset them more than the fans booing him? They're professional soccer players... a plane circling the stadium is child's play compared to what players in other countries have to deal with when they're playing like garbage (regardless of whether the coach needs to be replaced or not).

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

This thread is funny. They may be on a down but Jurgen is the best thing yo happen to lowly US soccer. They were nothing before he got there. They might never get again where he's got them. Careful what you wish for as they say.

 

[bluesfan94]

This thread is funny. They may be on a down but Jurgen is the best thing yo happen to lowly US soccer. They were nothing before he got there. They might never get again where he's got them. Careful what you wish for as they say.

For a sports enthusiast, you certainly seem to know nothing.

 

[Savant]

For a sports enthusiast, you certainly seem to know nothing.

No reason to feed the troll he has been doing this all day.

 

[Virtanen18]

Fire Klinsmann banner for the Saint Louis qualifier.... they're three-quarters of the way there!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fire-klinsmann-airplane-banner/x/12523315#/

I donated a couple of bucks.

Might as well give 50 for the personal award. Sounds like a doozy.

 

[Ugmo]

This thread is funny. They may be on a down but Jurgen is the best thing yo happen to lowly US soccer. They were nothing before he got there. They might never get again where he's got them. Careful what you wish for as they say.

Klinsmann has achieved literally nothing that almost all of his predecessors since 1990 haven't also achieved. Let's recap:

Klinsmann: qualified for Brazil 2014, got to the knockout stages where we got slapped around by Belgium, won the Gold Cup once
Bob Gansler: qualified for Italia 1990 with a bunch of college players but did poorly there.
Bora Milutinovic: didn't have to qualify for USA 1994 but got to the second round.
Steve Sampson: semi-finals of Copa America 1995, qualified for France 98 but did horribly there
Bruce Arena: qualified for Korea/Japan, got to the quarterfinals and took Germany to the limit, also won the Gold Cup
Bob Bradley: qualified for South Africa 2010, got to the knockout stages, won the Gold Cup, Confederations Cup final 2009

Klinsmann hasn't done any worse than most of his predecessors, but he hasn't done any better either. He has done worse than Arena, who now even has a higher winning percentage than Klinsmann thanks to the **** show of the past few months. He had an okay run at first, but now he has clearly lost the team through his arrogance, his unwillingess to take any responsibility when things go badly and his willingness to regularly seek out scapegoats for losses. The team is playing horribly. Worst of all, he was hired and paid a princely salary to elevate the USMNT's game. Instead we are actually playing worse than ever and embarrassing ourselves against minnows in our region who hadn't beaten us in decades. Time for him to go.

It's guys like you who demonstrate in one post that they either know nothing about soccer in general or nothing about US soccer specifically, and often a combination of the two, who are the base of Klinsmann's support. Eventually that base will crumble as well, and then he is gone. Gulati can't hold onto him when literally everyone wants him out.

 

[Ugmo]

No reason to feed the troll he has been doing this all day.

On the other hand there are a lot of Johnny-come-latelys who are laboring under the same misapprehensions as this guy, so it doesn't hurt to address them.

 

[Basement Cat]

On the other hand there are a lot of Johnny-come-latelys who are laboring under the same misapprehensions as this guy, so it doesn't hurt to address them.

Exactly. Just a few days ago we were posting in here about the morons who think that we should be flattered that Klinsi even looked our way. The guy is an awful manager. If his name was Mike Petke, he would have been fired after the GC

 

[Savant]

On the other hand there are a lot of Johnny-come-latelys who are laboring under the same misapprehensions as this guy, so it doesn't hurt to address them.

Look at some of the other threads around these parts and you'll see.

 

[KingLB]

I wanna see Klinsy fired and Rogers hired just for LITN and other Pool'/US fans on here's reactions...

 

[Live in the Now]

I really dislike Klinsmann so I'd be cool with that, but I don't think Rodgers will leave club management anytime soon.

 

[Ugmo]

Look at some of the other threads around these parts and you'll see.

Oh I don't doubt he's a troll. I'm just saying the myth that Klinsmann is the greatest thing to ever happen to US Soccer needs to be disspelled once and for all.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Oh I don't doubt he's a troll. I'm just saying the myth that Klinsmann is the greatest thing to ever happen to US Soccer needs to be disspelled once and for all.

This would only happen if more Americans actually paid attention to U.S. soccer between World Cups. If you only have the World Cup hype as the context to your view on Klinsmann, you'd probably think he's done fine too.

 

[Ugmo]

This would only happen if more Americans actually paid attention to U.S. soccer between World Cups. If you only have the World Cup hype as the context to your view on Klinsmann, you'd probably think he's done fine too.

True. Which brings up the point that his supporters are even giving him credit for the most recent World Cup hype! Rather than the fact that this was the fist World Cup since 1994 that was in the same time zone as the U.S.