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Tyutin vs Grebeshkov
Quick question : Who to chose to get the best in return and why???
Quick question : Who to chose to get the best in return and why???
BrooklynCanuck said:Grebeshkov if you're talking about a point scoring keeper league.
Otherwise I'd say tough call, but very slight edge to Tjutin.
NYRangers said:I think people overrate Tyutin. We Ranger fans have discussed and think we will turn into a 3rd defensemen. Not that anythings wrong with that. But yes, an 'all-purpose man' is a good way of saying it. He doesnt specialize in anything. Even though hes capable I dont think he will man the PP. Kondratiev and Pock have more offensive force from our prospects and them, along with Poti and Rachuneck are ahead of him for PP duties this season.
Jay Thompson said:Man, are you guys going to be pleasantly surprised. Hell, as soon as next season he could be on the top pairing!
I think people overrate Tyutin. We Ranger fans have discussed and think we will turn into a 3rd defensemen. Not that anythings wrong with that. But yes, an 'all-purpose man' is a good way of saying it. He doesnt specialize in anything. Even though hes capable I dont think he will man the PP. Kondratiev and Pock have more offensive force from our prospects and them, along with Poti and Rachuneck are ahead of him for PP duties this season.
Levitate said:i get conflicting things from what i saw of tyutin in the NHL vs the AHL for one thing...i saw him stand out a lot on the NHL level (and yeah he did make his share of mistakes as well, which is to be expected, but that's not what made him stand out the most). at the AHL level though he definatly played reserved and didn't do as much. whether that was what the coaches wanted or just because of his personal opinions of playing in the AHL, who knows, but i think he's a better NHL player than AHL player.
he also had a LOT of good scoring chances in the NHL before he got his first goal and many afterwards too...if he wants to and tries i think he could nurture that along and put up respectable point totals pretty easily...but in general i think the coaches want and he will turn out to be a 2-way guy who does put up pretty good offensive numbers, plays good defense...and probably be a #2 defenseman. what i'm saying when i say i think he has the talent to be a #1 is just that i think he has a whole lot of talent that if he really tapped and exploited, could make him a #1. kind of like malakhov (though i shudder to compare the two). malakhov could have been a norris candidate if he utilized all his skill, he was amazingly talented. i don't think tyutin will realize all his skill, not cuz he's lazy or anything, but just because most prospects and players never really do realize all of their skill.
NYRangers said:From what Ive read on Kondratiev Im very confursed, so you might be right. Ive read he is a total offensive defensemen and Ive read hes a two way defensemen.
I think Tyutin will be a 10 goal 30 assist good +/- and 80 PIM. I recently compared his as 'Roman Hamrlik esque'. Solid, but hes just as valuable on defense. From scouting reports Ive read he rarely gets beat one on one and forces people to the outside. I just hope he doesnt get killed net year from all the minutes. He average 22 mintues/game last season.
Judging by what I swa and read of the exhibition games he played with Toronto he's really an offensive defenseman.... but a couple of games don't mean much.