Value of: Tyler Toffoli to Montreal

[kings11]

Zero chance Toffoli returns a 1st. 2nd + prospect is more than fair.

Toffoli right now absolutely, however, should he have 15+ goals at the TDL... well, you better believe it be a 1st+... Hence , the FO is holding out hope he scores more and so they'll wait.. if he doesnt then its still a 2nd+

 

[kings11]

Boston wanted to give a 1st for him last year? God, you, as in your gm, should've taken that even tho that ended up the 30th pick...
Sorry about that, I read your original post a little too fast. You should be able to get a 2nd + for him. Doubt he gets a 1st this year in what appears like a pretty strong and deep draft, but who knows.

Dude, the board was like WTF... then we remembered Luc is micro managing, so we understood lol

 

[YP44]

Boston offered a 1st Blake insisted on them included Studnicka.. No deal was done.. The Kings seems to be targeting specific things, Jake woul dhave been our 3rd/4th line center this season if that trade would have gone down.. As for the source Tomd, one of the poster on our board posted it last season but I cant remenber who.. It was one of those wtf moments where anyone would have taken that but the Kings.. No idea why they didnt really

first I have heard of Boston offering a first.

If Blake thinks he will get a 1st + he is out to lunch. Even with 50% retention I do not see it.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Toffoli right now absolutely, however, should he have 15+ goals at the TDL... well, you better believe it be a 1st+... Hence , the FO is holding out hope he scores more and so they'll wait.. if he doesnt then its still a 2nd+

I still wouldn’t expect a 1st, a 1st + is laughable

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Zero chance Toffoli returns a 1st. 2nd + prospect is more than fair.

I totally disagree. So far there has been interest in Tyler by boston calgary vancouver montreal now i see alot of interest and can see a bidding war coming so a 1st is not out of possibility

 

[tomd]

Boston offered a 1st Blake insisted on them included Studnicka.. No deal was done.. The Kings seems to be targeting specific things, Jake woul dhave been our 3rd/4th line center this season if that trade would have gone down.. As for the source Tomd, one of the poster on our board posted it last season but I cant remenber who.. It was one of those wtf moments where anyone would have taken that but the Kings.. No idea why they didnt really

You really need to provide some sources for these fantastic trades offers...I don't remember anything like that at all. Even Hoven the Hack didn't mention that (and he surely would have if true!).

 

[ole ole]

I totally disagree. So far there has been interest in Tyler by boston calgary vancouver montreal now i see alot of interest and can see a bidding war coming so a 1st is not out of possibility

A 1st is not a possibility from the Habs.

 

[kings11]

I still wouldn’t expect a 1st, a 1st + is laughable

tell you what, take a look at the last few TDL deals and tell me how many of those trades were overpayments and how many fanbases probably said the same thing you're saying now?? You better believe GMs overpay and it'll be no different this TDL, guy slike Toffoli always become very attractive to contenders

 

[kings11]

A 1st is not a possibility from the Habs.

Nor do I think they need him. If this was 2-3 years down the road I would say yes but they arent contenders and shouldnt be remotely interested in a Tyler Toffoli.. This is more for a Boston, Carolina, Edmonton, maybe even a Calgary

 

[Steeler23]

Toffoli right now absolutely, however, should he have 15+ goals at the TDL... well, you better believe it be a 1st+... Hence , the FO is holding out hope he scores more and so they'll wait.. if he doesnt then its still a 2nd+

Gustav Nyquist, Marcus Johansson and Ryan Dzingel didnt fetch 1st rnd pick last year even with good seasons. Even Mats Zuccarello was 2x2nd with big conditions to become 1sts.
I would drop my expectations.

 

[YP44]

I wish Carolina needed a RW as a team with 2 firsts are the only ones I could see maybe ponying up.

Just for the fun of it:
TT to Carolina for Conditional first (Lower of Toronto and Carolina)

 

[KingCanadain1976]

A 1st is not a possibility from the Habs.

I am not saying the habs will be the one only that with 5 teams interested it is not out of the possibility of someone doing it

 

[Choralone]

He'd have to go on a tear to merit more than a 2nd - and I don't follow the opinion of some on our board who say he's lazy. (Evidently, because he said in the off-season that our practices were terrible last year, he was was wrong to not fix them himself instead of complaining....or something.)

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Better performing players were dealt for 2nd round picks in last year’s trade deadline. Overzealous Kings fans need to temper their expectations of a player who notoriously no shows for long stretches. Toffoli isn’t worth a 1st nor will any team be offering one for him.

 

[deaderhead28]

Gustav Nyquist, Marcus Johansson and Ryan Dzingel didnt fetch 1st rnd pick last year even with good seasons. Even Mats Zuccarello was 2x2nd with big conditions to become 1sts.
I would drop my expectations.

Seasons to season value changes depending on market that is set.

 

[Steeler23]

Seasons to season value changes depending on market that is set.

Same could be said about the draft quality. 2020 1st round is supposed to be stacked, so my guess is that a 1st round is less likely to be dealt this year than the last seasons.

 

[General Fanager]

With Carey Price in net, anything is possible if we make the playoffs mate.

This is the kind of thinking that led us to a mediocre team for the past 25 years

 

[jfhabs]

I still wouldn’t expect a 1st, a 1st + is laughable

Unless it's 1st + cap dump

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

This is the kind of thinking that led us to a mediocre team for the past 25 years

that was the reason almost went to a stanley cup final

 

[General Fanager]

that was the reason almost went to a stanley cup final

oh right i forgot almost going to the final is just as good as winning...my bad.

I wonder where they would be now if they had traded all those high value UFAs when they could have over the past 10-12 years. Instead they let them walk for nothing because they had to make the playoffs and pray for a miracle.....

 

[regulate]

In his last 4 games, Toffoli has 7 pts and is +7 in those games. He is on pace this season for 21 goals and 26 assists.

 

[Steeler23]

In his last 4 games, Toffoli has 7 pts and is +7 in those games. He is on pace this season for 21 goals and 26 assists.

Cool

 

[wintersej]

In his last 4 games, Toffoli has 7 pts and is +7 in those games. He is on pace this season for 21 goals and 26 assists.

Thats in line with the guys that netted a 2nd+ last year.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Toffoli's numbers would most likely boost if traded to a contender , and as is, he's aiming a 50 pt season. That's fantastic to have that as your secondary scoring

 

[kings11]

Thats in line with the guys that netted a 2nd+ last year.

While that is correct, should he continue to score..
Then his value would obviously go up..
BOS
BUF
NYI
EDM
PIT
TBL
and a few others could see him as the final/missing piece.. on a better team (we’re bottom 3) he would be able to play to his strengths and just snipe.. so a change of scenery would likely reactivate his offense