Waived: Tyler Johnson (cleared) - continued

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[Junohockeyfan]

Drop the puck!

 

[More 2004]

Memories of a happier time..

 

[FameFlame069]

TJ @ 4M to Calgary for a 2nd in 22 and 3rd in 23

 

[HoseEmDown]

TJ @ 4M to Calgary for a 2nd in 22 and 3rd in 23

Deal, not take backs.

 

[Legend123]

TJ @ 4M to Calgary for a 2nd in 22 and 3rd in 23

He was up for free

 

[voxel]

He was up for free

At full cap. $1M/yr off for 4 years is still overpaid IMO.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

TJ @ 4M to Calgary for a 2nd in 22 and 3rd in 23

They would give him to you for a pack of smokes

 

[CupsOverCash]

Member when Tyler Johnson scored that goal with moments left in the game to win it in the playoffs versus the wings? Good times...

 

[gstommylee]

A little reminder tampa played their waive card and he cleared. Now TJ just needs to continue to wave his no trade clause card and he remains with tampa.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

A little reminder tampa played their waive card and he cleared. Now TJ just needs to continue to wave his no trade clause card and he remains with tampa.

for 1 more year. Next year his clause allows him to be traded to 20 teams. So he can use his clause to either stay in Tampa for 1 year more then be sent to one of 20 teams next year with no say in a he matter (other than defining the list of 20), or use it to control where he goes, so he goes to a team he wants to go this year.

Albeit, there are dwindling options this year.

 

[Sota Popinski]

for 1 more year. Next year his clause allows him to be traded to 20 teams. So he can use his clause to either stay in Tampa for 1 year more then be sent to one of 20 teams next year with no say in a he matter (other than defining the list of 20), or use it to control where he goes, so he goes to a team he wants to go this year.

Albeit, there are dwindling options this year.

You're acting like he can't be traded again next year when his list opens up. It's not like he accepts a trade to Carolina, for example, and then they have to keep him for the rest of the contract.

Johnson has literally zero reason to open up his list of teams.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

You're acting like he can't be traded again next year when his list opens up. It's not like he accepts a trade to Carolina, for example, and then they have to keep him for the rest of the contract.

Johnson has literally zero reason to open up his list of teams.

Problem is Tampa needs cap NOW not next season. Something has to give soon doesn't it?

 

[Erep]

Problem is Tampa needs cap NOW not next season. Something has to give soon doesn't it?

Yeah, which means if he just refuses to be traded until the start of this season, Tampa will have less reason to trade him next season, because they will have shipped other guys out (or lost RFA's to offersheets) by that time.

 

[Waterbuf]

Having trouble understanding what team would want this player with 4 more years at 5$ mil cap hit. Guess the Tampa GM is too.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Such a long contract

 

[Clamshells]

for 1 more year. Next year his clause allows him to be traded to 20 teams. So he can use his clause to either stay in Tampa for 1 year more then be sent to one of 20 teams next year with no say in a he matter (other than defining the list of 20), or use it to control where he goes, so he goes to a team he wants to go this year.

Albeit, there are dwindling options this year.

If he gets traded, can't the other team just not honour his NTC, and all of a sudden he can get traded to anyone?

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Problem is Tampa needs cap NOW not next season. Something has to give soon doesn't it?

Depends on who's serious about offers sheets and who fills up their cap space before they get the chance to offer one. IIRC Kucherov wasn't thrilled about his bridge, but he took it because that was the established pattern. This year there's a chance that a deserving RFA gets moved or 1 or more of their bridges get squeezed if moving Johnson proves to continue to be difficult.

 

[LokiDog]

I am wondering when Tampa will make any kind of moves. They can afford to re-sign their guys with the 10% overage, and agreeing on terms let’s them know how much salary they actually have to shed.

Would they move McDonagh? He’d have a lot more suitors than Johnson, or even Killorn in a flat cap off season, even with the larger cap hit. What about just moving Sergachev for some close futures and making minor moves to fit Cirelli and Cernak?

Eventually something has to give. No one wants 4 years of Johnson at full bang when everyone is losing money. Is Tampa relying on Stamkos ending up LTIR? They’ve been very quiet aside from waiving Johnson, who everyone knew would clear.

 

[mouser]

If he gets traded, can't the other team just not honour his NTC, and all of a sudden he can get traded to anyone?

Nope.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

You're acting like he can't be traded again next year when his list opens up. It's not like he accepts a trade to Carolina, for example, and then they have to keep him for the rest of the contract.

Nah. he 100% knows TB wants to move him now and will very likely move him next year if they don’t this year. If he goes to another team, they could of course still trade him again, but he can get a read on how likely that is beforehand. Not a guarantee, but he can get a decent read on that.

Johnson has literally zero reason to open up his list of teams.

We fans have no way of knowing what reasons he may or may not have for waiving. I’m not saying he will waive (or won’t), as I don’t know his thinking either, but I do know that we fans on Hf have been wrong before on our assumptions about players not waiving/waiving clauses, or where UFAs may sign, accept a trade to, etc. so to assume a player won’t, under any circumstances, is A bit presumptuous.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If he gets traded, can't the other team just not honour his NTC, and all of a sudden he can get traded to anyone?

no. Teams only can refuse to honor a clause if a player has one in the future that isn’t already in effect (like Subban to NSH I think).

that said, next year, TB or any team can trade him to 20 teams he defines, as his clause changes to a limited ntc.

So there is no guarantee a team he’s traded to won’t trade him again, but he can get an idea of how likely that is should he choose to waive his clause now.

 

[Clamshells]

no. Teams only can refuse to honor a clause if a player has one in the future that isn’t already in effect (like Subban to NSH I think).

that said, next year, TB or any team can trade him to 20 teams he defines, as his clause changes to a limited ntc.

So there is no guarantee a team he’s traded to won’t trade him again, but he can get an idea of how likely that is should he choose to waive his clause now.

Ah didn't know that. Thanks

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I wonder if he's apartment hunting in Syracuse yet?

 

[Colt55]

50% retained. Whats his value