OT: TV & Movie Thread: Part II

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Very interested in how this turns out.

Villeneuve is probably the best filmmaker working today aside from the big 3 (Scorcese, Tarantino, Nolan). Blade Runner 2049 was amazing, too bad it bombed. But even aside from that, I don't think he's made a movie that isn't great since he started making American films.

Prisoners
Enemy
Sicario
Arrival
Blade Runner 2049

That's 5 fantastic movies. Prisoners is very underrated, Enemy is probably the least appreciated but still an interesting mind bending film very well done. Sicario is one of the best thriller/crime movies of the decade, Arrival is terrific alien/sci fi and oscar nominated and BR 2049 was just amazing.

 

[haohmaru]

Blade Runner is my favorite film of all time and has been since it came out a thousand years ago. I was tepid about a sequel, but 2049 really nailed it. I hope he replicate that with Dune, which is another series of books from eons ago, that will be difficult to do. I loved the first three Dune books, but it kind of went awry with God Emperor and all downhill from there.

 

[ponzu4u]

Catching up on this thread.

Dark was pretty great first two seasons, then season 3 came along and... yikes. Stopped watching with like 3 episodes left and not sure if I'll ever finish the show.

Super excited to see what Villeneuve does with Dune. Loved the books and he's my fav current big time director.

Anyone else check out Raised by Wolves? Only watched the first episode, but I quite enjoyed it, and OH MAN those last 5-10mins. Wow. Not sure if anyone has seen Elfin Lied, but some serious Elfin escape scene vibes.

 

[kovazub94]

Catching up on this thread.

Dark was pretty great first two seasons, then season 3 came along and... yikes. Stopped watching with like 3 episodes left and not sure if I'll ever finish the show.

Super excited to see what Villeneuve does with Dune. Loved the books and he's my fav current big time director.

Anyone else check out Raised by Wolves? Only watched the first episode, but I quite enjoyed it, and OH MAN those last 5-10mins. Wow. Not sure if anyone has seen Elfin Lied, but some serious Elfin escape scene vibes.

Thank you for the heads up on Dark. I thought the second season started to leak compared to first. If it was me I would’ve just made it a 2-season story like The Counterpart.

 

[Blue Men Group]

I definitely agree on Dark. I ended up finishing season 3, but it was an absolute chore.

 

[kovazub94]

So I watched the first season of AWAY on Netflix. Not overly impressed. Not enough near future space travel sci-fi in this one and too many "Earthly" human issues.

On the other hand I just started to watch Victoria on Prime and it has my hooked. Fans of Downton Abbey should enjoy it.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Recently started the The Magicians on Netflix (originally SyFy) and have been enjoying it through three episodes.

(Originally had been put off by how they changed the beginning from the book, but didn't mind as much when I gave it a second chance.)

 

[Maximus]

Very interested in how this turns out.

Villeneuve is probably the best filmmaker working today aside from the big 3 (Scorcese, Tarantino, Nolan). Blade Runner 2049 was amazing, too bad it bombed. But even aside from that, I don't think he's made a movie that isn't great since he started making American films.

Prisoners
Enemy
Sicario
Arrival
Blade Runner 2049

That's 5 fantastic movies. Prisoners is very underrated, Enemy is probably the least appreciated but still an interesting mind bending film very well done. Sicario is one of the best thriller/crime movies of the decade, Arrival is terrific alien/sci fi and oscar nominated and BR 2049 was just amazing.

Withought question Sicario is the best crime drama that nobody other than you and I apparently have ever seen...lol.

Seriously, I ask and talk to my friends and most of them are pretty savvy when it comes to movies which during covid more movies and TV shows have been binged than ever before and I'll ask them "have you ever seen Sicario" and they'll look at me with a blank stare "huh...what's that"?

So I have to explain that it's a fantastic Dennis Villeneuve directed flick that depicts the drug war on the border between clandestine US ops and the cartels on the Mexican border. They than give me a look and say "OK Billy...thx for the recommendation" fully knowing they aren't going to watch it.

Whatever...it's their losses. Villeneuve does a tremendous job setting the mood and tension with an amazing musical score and the cinematography in this movie is just phenomenal. Must see movie for anyone who hasn't seen it.

There is one scene towards the end of Sicario, when one of the main characters meets up with one of the drug lords and might be one of the greatest scenes in any movie I've ever seen. I think I've rewatched that scene over 2 dozen times on YT cause I can't get enough of it. Those who have seen the movie will know what I'm talking about. And those who haven't seen the movie but will, will see exactly why it's such an impactful scene.

There is another scene at the "border" which is as intense a scene as you'll ever see in a movie...just riveting shit.

 

[SA16]

Recently started the The Magicians on Netflix (originally SyFy) and have been enjoying it through three episodes.

(Originally had been put off by how they changed the beginning from the book, but didn't mind as much when I gave it a second chance.)

The show is COMPLETELY different from the books. Like, outside of there being some of the same characters, it's entirely it's own thing. And there's nothing wrong with it both are good as they are.

 

[Maximus]

Anyone watch "Queen of the South" on Netflix?

Watched the first 3 episodes last night after the Star Bolts game and I think I like it but not sure if that makes sense. I mean I'm not chomping at the bit to move forward with it tho I likely will.

So anyone who has seen it have any positive or negative thoughts about it, I'd love to hear what you think.

 

[ponzu4u]

So I watched the first season of AWAY on Netflix. Not overly impressed. Not enough near future space travel sci-fi in this one and too many "Earthly" human issues.

Give Raised by Wolves a try!

 

[kovazub94]

Give Raised by Wolves a try!

Noted. Thank you!

 

[Maximus]

Withought question Sicario is the best crime drama that nobody other than you and I apparently have ever seen...lol.

Seriously, I ask and talk to my friends and most of them are pretty savvy when it comes to movies which during covid more movies and TV shows have been binged than ever before and I'll ask them "have you ever seen Sicario" and they'll look at me with a blank stare "huh...what's that"?

So I have to explain that it's a fantastic Dennis Villeneuve directed flick that depicts the drug war on the border between clandestine US ops and the cartels on the Mexican border. They than give me a look and say "OK Billy...thx for the recommendation" fully knowing they aren't going to watch it.

Whatever...it's their losses. Villeneuve does a tremendous job setting the mood and tension with an amazing musical score and the cinematography in this movie is just phenomenal. Must see movie for anyone who hasn't seen it.

There is one scene towards the end of Sicario, when one of the main characters meets up with one of the drug lords and might be one of the greatest scenes in any movie I've ever seen. I think I've rewatched that scene over 2 dozen times on YT cause I can't get enough of it. Those who have seen the movie will know what I'm talking about. And those who haven't seen the movie but will, will see exactly why it's such an impactful scene.

There is another scene at the "border" which is as intense a scene as you'll ever see in a movie...just riveting shit.

Oh yeah the ending of Sicario 2 Day of the Soldado was awesome. "So you want to be a Sicario huh? Let's talk about your future"!....love that line!

 

[aufheben]

Very interested in how this turns out.

Villeneuve is probably the best filmmaker working today aside from the big 3 (Scorcese, Tarantino, Nolan). Blade Runner 2049 was amazing, too bad it bombed. But even aside from that, I don't think he's made a movie that isn't great since he started making American films.

Prisoners
Enemy
Sicario
Arrival
Blade Runner 2049

That's 5 fantastic movies. Prisoners is very underrated, Enemy is probably the least appreciated but still an interesting mind bending film very well done. Sicario is one of the best thriller/crime movies of the decade, Arrival is terrific alien/sci fi and oscar nominated and BR 2049 was just amazing.

Firstly, have you seen Polytechnique (2009) or Incendies (2011)? Both are incredible, and they showcase what I will rave about in the following paragraphs. Polytechnique, for example, is a black-and-white film based on the 1989 “Montreal Massacre”; the guy just covers so much ground.

I think he’s the best period. Can’t stand Scorcese, Tarantino, and Nolan, and for all the same reasons. All three of those directors, you don’t need to see anymore than 1-2 of their movies:

Scorcese: Taxi Driver; Goodfellas
Tarantino: Reservoir Dogs; Pulp Fiction
Nolan: Memento; The Dark Knight

Casino is great, but you don’t need to see it. Jackie Brown is great, but you don’t need to see it. Inception is great, but you don’t need to see it.

Tl;dr: if you’ve seen 1-2, you've seen them all.

Nolan tried recently to break his own mold with Dunkirk, which ended up being entirely mediocre IMO.

Part of what puts Villeneuve above the rest is his range. The calling card of a Villeneuve film is that it’s just incredibly well crafted. Those other three directors, you can tell who directed the movie 30 seconds into it (and basically know what will happen during the following 7,799 seconds).

His visual and aural aesthetics, casting, subject matter...he’s just truly a master of his craft.

I’ll tell you right now: Dune is going to be a 5-star event that even people who don’t give a f*** about Dune will have to see.

—

Ari Aster is my other albeit lesser favorite, even though he’s only directed two feature films.

 

[aufheben]

Raised By Wolves is alright—it’s too weird not to be—but for me, it’s just more of Ridley Scott continuing to indulge his inner 8th-grade-philosopher. Dude has really been acting the last decade like he didn’t read The Stranger until age 72.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Firstly, have you seen Polytechnique (2009) or Incendies (2011)? Both are incredible, and they showcase what I will rave about in the following paragraphs. Polytechnique, for example, is a black-and-white film based on the 1989 “Montreal Massacre”; the guy just covers so much ground.

I think he’s the best period. Can’t stand Scorcese, Tarantino, and Nolan, and for all the same reasons. All three of those directors, you don’t need to see anymore than 1-2 of their movies:

Scorcese: Taxi Driver; Goodfellas
Tarantino: Reservoir Dogs; Pulp Fiction
Nolan: Memento; The Dark Knight

Casino is great, but you don’t need to see it. Jackie Brown is great, but you don’t need to see it. Inception is great, but you don’t need to see it.

Tl;dr: if you’ve seen 1-2, you've seen them all.

Nolan tried recently to break his own mold with Dunkirk, which ended up being entirely mediocre IMO.

Part of what puts Villeneuve above the rest is his range. The calling card of a Villeneuve film is that it’s just incredibly well crafted. Those other three directors, you can tell who directed the movie 30 seconds into it (and basically know what will happen during the following 7,799 seconds).

His visual and aural aesthetics, casting, subject matter...he’s just truly a master of his craft.

I’ll tell you right now: Dune is going to be a 5-star event that even people who don’t give a f*** about Dune will have to see.

—

Ari Aster is my other albeit lesser favorite, even though he’s only directed two feature films.

Raised By Wolves is alright—it’s too weird not to be—but for me, it’s just more of Ridley Scott continuing to indulge his inner 8th-grade-philosopher. Dude has really been acting the last decade like he didn’t read The Stranger until age 72.

I think Villeneuve is probably the best out of those 4, but I have to say I don't particularly like any of them. And I think Ridley Scott might be one of the worst directors who still gets work for a million different reasons. It's a weird time for movie making because for bigger budget movies you're either one of a really small group who can get their budgets and ideas green lit without much push back (Scorcese isn't even in that group) or you're a jobber hired to do a billion-dollar+ franchise installment or you have to do a really small budget movie and hope it makes enough of a splash that you can get a little more money for your next one or you get an offer for a lot of money to be the jobber directing-by-numbers on a franchise installment.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Firstly, have you seen Polytechnique (2009) or Incendies (2011)? Both are incredible, and they showcase what I will rave about in the following paragraphs. Polytechnique, for example, is a black-and-white film based on the 1989 “Montreal Massacre”; the guy just covers so much ground.

I think he’s the best period. Can’t stand Scorcese, Tarantino, and Nolan, and for all the same reasons. All three of those directors, you don’t need to see anymore than 1-2 of their movies:

Scorcese: Taxi Driver; Goodfellas
Tarantino: Reservoir Dogs; Pulp Fiction
Nolan: Memento; The Dark Knight

Casino is great, but you don’t need to see it. Jackie Brown is great, but you don’t need to see it. Inception is great, but you don’t need to see it.

Tl;dr: if you’ve seen 1-2, you've seen them all.

Nolan tried recently to break his own mold with Dunkirk, which ended up being entirely mediocre IMO.

Part of what puts Villeneuve above the rest is his range. The calling card of a Villeneuve film is that it’s just incredibly well crafted. Those other three directors, you can tell who directed the movie 30 seconds into it (and basically know what will happen during the following 7,799 seconds).

His visual and aural aesthetics, casting, subject matter...he’s just truly a master of his craft.

I’ll tell you right now: Dune is going to be a 5-star event that even people who don’t give a f*** about Dune will have to see.

—

Ari Aster is my other albeit lesser favorite, even though he’s only directed two feature films.

Interesting takes. I wholly agree about Villeneuve's range being a truly elite (to use the board parlance) feature of his. To go from Prisoners to Sicario to Arrival to BR2049 and have all of them be fantastic films for different reasons, with really the only common thread being that they're good, is amazing. He's an automatic must watch for me at this point - joining the three directors I mentioned in that club of working directors.

However I also vehemently disagree about your takes, though interesting and fair because it's all subjective, on Scorcese and Tarantino in particular. Nolan I think your criticism applies more towards than them, but Scorcese and Tarantino are two of the best to ever do it. I don't necessarily think them having a specific style and look and feel to their movies is a negative, at least not to me.

Scorcese in particular is a true genius to me, Sure there's Taxi Driver and Goodfellas (best film of all time for me) but there's so much more. Raging Bull is a masterpiece, Mean Streets is a gritty coming out party foreshadowing his hallmark style, The Last Waltz is the best concert documentary film ever, The King of Comedy is an underrated dark comedy classic. Then there's After Hours, The Color of Money, The Last Temptation of Christ, Cape Fear, Age of Innocence. There's tremendous range there. Silence is a meditation on Christianity that is unmatched IMO in modern cinema. The Wolf of Wall Street is hilarious and intentionally relentlessly disorienting and unfortunately worshipped by many people who miss the whole point of all the excess and greed seen on screen. The Irishman even is fantastic exploration of a life of crime and on aging.

Tarantino is just like the guilty pleasure style that just is like straight injection of serotonin into my brain. Just scratches my itch. Inglorious Basterds and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are pantheon films for me, just masterpieces.


Where can I find those two Villeneuve films you mentioned? Are they streaming anywhere?

 

[aufheben]

Interesting takes. I wholly agree about Villeneuve's range being a truly elite (to use the board parlance) feature of his. To go from Prisoners to Sicario to Arrival to BR2049 and have all of them be fantastic films for different reasons, with really the only common thread being that they're good, is amazing. He's an automatic must watch for me at this point - joining the three directors I mentioned in that club of working directors.

However I also vehemently disagree about your takes, though interesting and fair because it's all subjective, on Scorcese and Tarantino in particular. Nolan I think your criticism applies more towards than them, but Scorcese and Tarantino are two of the best to ever do it. I don't necessarily think them having a specific style and look and feel to their movies is a negative, at least not to me.

Scorcese in particular is a true genius to me, Sure there's Taxi Driver and Goodfellas (best film of all time for me) but there's so much more. Raging Bull is a masterpiece, Mean Streets is a gritty coming out party foreshadowing his hallmark style, The Last Waltz is the best concert documentary film ever, The King of Comedy is an underrated dark comedy classic. Then there's After Hours, The Color of Money, The Last Temptation of Christ, Cape Fear, Age of Innocence. There's tremendous range there. Silence is a meditation on Christianity that is unmatched IMO in modern cinema. The Wolf of Wall Street is hilarious and intentionally relentlessly disorienting and unfortunately worshipped by many people who miss the whole point of all the excess and greed seen on screen. The Irishman even is fantastic exploration of a life of crime and on aging.

Tarantino is just like the guilty pleasure style that just is like straight injection of serotonin into my brain. Just scratches my itch. Inglorious Basterds and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are pantheon films for me, just masterpieces.


Where can I find those two Villeneuve films you mentioned? Are they streaming anywhere?

Tarantino and Scorcese both made tons of good movies, but I feel like once you’ve seen the 1-2 essential ones, you’ve kind of seen the rest.

Haha I was honestly offended by how similar The Wolf of Wall Street was to Goodfellas. Like, 20 years have passed and you’re basically making the same movie again. Not to mention Casino was basically the same movie as well. And again in 2018/19 with The Irishman...dude enough anti-heroes and their criminal rise-and-falls; I get it.

It’s like Kubrick and Barry Lyndon. Now, that movie is probably better than 99.9% of all movies ever made, but it just leaves you with the impression of a genius getting bored.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Scorcese in particular is a true genius to me, Sure there's Taxi Driver and Goodfellas (best film of all time for me) but there's so much more. Raging Bull is a masterpiece, Mean Streets is a gritty coming out party foreshadowing his hallmark style, The Last Waltz is the best concert documentary film ever, The King of Comedy is an underrated dark comedy classic. Then there's After Hours, The Color of Money, The Last Temptation of Christ, Cape Fear, Age of Innocence. There's tremendous range there. Silence is a meditation on Christianity that is unmatched IMO in modern cinema. The Wolf of Wall Street is hilarious and intentionally relentlessly disorienting and unfortunately worshipped by many people who miss the whole point of all the excess and greed seen on screen. The Irishman even is fantastic exploration of a life of crime and on aging.

Was gonna basically say this. Scorsese often does work with similar concepts, actors, etc. but theres also a lot of stuff he's made outside of his typical formula. Love Silence, had to watch it and write a report about it for a class I took last semester and maybe its because I had to do that but it really was a film that stuck with me after viewing it.

 

[will1066]

For the Tiger King enthusiasts. Investigation Discovery is doing a two-part, four-hour docu focusing on Carole Baskin's missing first husband, Don Lewis. Watched part 1 last night, part 2 is tonight. It basically follows an independent investigator working on his own and pursuing the popular theory that Carole had Don killed. He's dug up some very compelling shit.

 

[Blue Men Group]

I have one episode to go in Zerozerozero on Amazon. It is fantastic.

 

[kovazub94]

I have one episode to go in Zerozerozero on Amazon. It is fantastic.

Genre? what is it about?

 

[Blue Men Group]

Genre? what is it about?

There are 3 different storylines that all have to do with one major drug deal: an Italian gangster family that is buying the cocaine, the Mexican cartel that produced the cocaine, and the US family that is in charge of shipping it from Mexico to Italy using their shipping company.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

For the Tiger King enthusiasts. Investigation Discovery is doing a two-part, four-hour docu focusing on Carole Baskin's missing first husband, Don Lewis. Watched part 1 last night, part 2 is tonight. It basically follows an independent investigator working on his own and pursuing the popular theory that Carole had Don killed. He's dug up some very compelling shit.

Wow, interesting! Where can I watch this? Is it online?

I've always maintained after watching the show, that Carole Baskins for sure was involved in his disappearance. Or at the very least, she knows what happened to him.

 

[kovazub94]

There are 3 different storylines that all have to do with one major drug deal: an Italian gangster family that is buying the cocaine, the Mexican cartel that produced the cocaine, and the US family that is in charge of shipping it from Mexico to Italy using their shipping company.

My kind of show. Definitely will give it a go.

Your description invoke Snowfall from FX / Hulu. Highly recommend if you haven’t seen it.