News: Turris Buyout: Poile Considers Everything On The Table

Eggtimer

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We need more quality prospects, the players we're looking at now probably won't be there at 18. I don't think that's worth it for us.

Someone who could have gone in the top 10 will be there at 11, someone might fall out of the top 10, a team might go off the board.
As a Devils fan I would be very interested in moving up from 18 to 11 ... Turris plus 11 for 18 and Macleod ?
 

DesertPenguin

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I would hope not given he's not successful in a bottom six role throughout his career, but I wouldn't put it past Rutherford.

Turris at 4 mil for JJ lololol
I mean, Turris at 5m for JJ, then buy out JJ is less damaging to Nashville's cap than buying out Turris, no? I wonder if something creative could get done.
 

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thats pretty much it. love that Turris told that clown off

Lol told that clown off? He and his woman had a public cry because he was the best player ever and everyone wanted him but cheap Melnyk was the only reason he couldn’t get paid.
I have never seen a more childlike move from a pro athlete trying to get a contract in my life, being a waste of money looks good on him.
Perhaps they should attack his new owner now seeing how he is so entitled to the big bucks
 

WingsMJN2965

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Eating 2M in dead capspace is better than further damaging our already bad prospect pipeline. Nashville is teetering on the need to retool/rebuild.

Fair enough, in that regard. The fact that it'd be eight years sucks though.

I honestly think you'd be farther ahead to do 50% retention and eat the extra million just to be done with it in four years.
 

SI90

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It would have been his contract year (2020-21) for DiPietro. :laugh:

ironically the same year Lundqvist is bought out. You never sign a goalie for that long but if DP would have stayed healthy having a franchise goalie for 4.5Mil AAV for so long Wang would have looked like a genius.
 

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If you do a comparison of other forwards who scored 31-35 pts last year, Turris made 1-2 million more. His contract is a year longer. That's it.

If I was advising Poile I would eat 1-2 million and no more and take a chance he will play better.
 

DesertPenguin

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If you do a comparison of other forwards who scored 31-35 pts last year, Turris made 1-2 million more. His contract is a year longer. That's it.

If I was advising Poile I would eat 1-2 million and no more and take a chance he will play better.
Agreed, Turris is movable if you retain, and you won't have to pay to do it.
 

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As a Devils fan I would be very interested in moving up from 18 to 11 ... Turris plus 11 for 18 and Macleod ?

Turris is 6m x 4, to buy him out would be 2m x 8. This feels like not a great trade for NJ, even if someone like Askarov is there.
 

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It's frustrating, but it is what it is. Turris would be an adequate #2C if you just locked him into that role and didn't look back. But it's also on him that for whatever reason he can't seem to do anything else. He can't play on wing. He can't produce anything on the 4th line. You really do have to just serve him up a #2C job on a silver platter, it seems. And if the Preds just do that, he'll be fine.

What the Preds should do is just give him that job back for 2020-21. Let him recoup his value. Duchene didn't do anything in that role anyway, so pushing him aside for a year is no real loss. Just pump Turris back up in the only role he seems to be able to fill, and then revisit the whole thing next year.
 

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He's gotta have some value at 50% retained. Wouldn't you rather have a $3m cap hit for four years than $2m for 8?

GM's are switched out frequently, that's why the focus is now and maybe 3 years down the road. What are the chances Poile is even in the Preds organization 8 years from now? Very low
 

Bam19

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GM's are switched out frequently, that's why the focus is now and maybe 3 years down the road. What are the chances Poile is even in the Preds organization 8 years from now? Very low


I mean he is 70 so there is that but he has been there for 22 years.
 

Armourboy

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I hope a difference of $4 million in real money isn't that big of a problem for us but you might be right.
It's more the cumulative total. No Smith or Granlund to pay and 4 million less on Turris that's 12 million not coming out of their pockets.

Keep in mind too they aren't just losing money because of no hockey, they are losing huge chunks from no events period at the arena. It was one of the top arenas in the country for events prior to Covid. Plus keep in mind Duchene and Josi are all chunks of bonus money which hurts when you have nothing coming in.
 

RedMenace

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Retention I'm sure could change things, but it seems like Nashville wants money off the books more than anything. I suspect they'd buy him out even if they got him with 50% retention, but who knows, maybe not.

How about this: Does Nashville have any overpaid-yet-still-somewhat-effective puck-moving defensemen they need to unload as well?

Or maybe a goalie?
 

PensandCaps

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Lol told that clown off? He and his woman had a public cry because he was the best player ever and everyone wanted him but cheap Melnyk was the only reason he couldn’t get paid.
I have never seen a more childlike move from a pro athlete trying to get a contract in my life, being a waste of money looks good on him.
Perhaps they should attack his new owner now seeing how he is so entitled to the big bucks

Sorry to offend you, Eugene
 

Mark MacCrimmon

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At this point i think Turris is likely fed up with Nashville's management and coaching with how they've managed his ice time and linemates. It's best they all go separate ways. I'm surprised there aren't any takers with 2M retained even if it's just for a conditional 7th or something based on is performance. He was on pace for 41 points given 4th line quality linemates most the year. That's pretty good all things considered.

I can see some potential value in a Neal for Turris swap if Nashville retains some money. Not sure if it makes sense due to how many goals Neal put up and the extra year on Turris, but if Oilers see Turris as a good right shot 3C and Preds want Neal as a scoring PP guy coming home with 1 year less term, it could work for both sides.

Neal was a huge win in the Lucic swap, and put up basically 20 goals on the super hot PP, and obviously is a solid bottom 6 player with PP specialist upside. He has had 20 goals every year of his career bar Calgary. Probably the best bad contract of last season. Idk how Turris is but on paper looks like a good 3C rn.

Retained value on Turris makes up for less goals and 1 extra year.

EDIT1: Nash could eat 1M or more to make up for the last year of Turris' contract and the difference in goal scoring. Realistically $1M retained makes more sense than $2M.

EDIT2: I can't count. I got both contracts a year short. Deal stays roughly the same, just correct by adding a year to each. but maybe makes less sense since both contracts are very long anyway....

Neal is 5.75M AAV 2 years, $11.5M.
Turris is 6.00M AAV 3 years, $18M.

Nashville:
Neal @ 5.75M, 2 years, ~$1M retained.
That's ~$6.75M for 2 years and ~$1M for 1 year, $14.5M total.
Pros - better goal scoring, 1 year less term.

Oilers:
Turris @ ~5M, 3 years.
That's ~$5M each year, $15M total.
Pros - turns winger into right shot 3C.
 
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