Turnover City

[Bonsai Tree]

I saw unforced turnover after turnover last night, and in many of the previous games. Are the turnovers due to players who have cashed it in for this season, players with not enough talent to play at the NHL level, or are they due to poor coaching and/or poor system? We've mostly treated Tourigny with kid gloves for the past 2 years, but perhaps he's not the one for us going forward.

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[SniperHF]

Are the turnovers due to players who have cashed it in for this season,

Tbh I mostly lean towards this. I don't think it's a coincidence that right when losing starts it gets even worse with all the media firing squad last month over the arena. This has happened before.

 

[Foggy1097]

I saw unforced turnover after turnover last night, and in many of the previous games. Are the turnovers due to players who have cashed it in for this season, players with not enough talent to play at the NHL level, or are they due to poor coaching and/or poor system? We've mostly treated Tourigny with kid gloves for the past 2 years, but perhaps he's not the one for us going forward.

Two goals on turnovers by Cooley and Guenther…they’re just young and are going to have growing pains. Part of the process yada yada…

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I saw unforced turnover after turnover last night, and in many of the previous games. Are the turnovers due to players who have cashed it in for this season, players with not enough talent to play at the NHL level, or are they due to poor coaching and/or poor system? We've mostly treated Tourigny with kid gloves for the past 2 years, but perhaps he's not the one for us going forward.

I've been noticing this for years with this team, though. It's like playing NHL 23 on XBox with the Puck Control setting at minimum. I saw it with Tippett, with Tocchet, and with Tourigny (apropos of nothing, maybe we need a coach without a T surname someday), so I don't think it's coaching/system. It just looks lazy and uncommitted.

At one point I thought it was because the ice in Glendale was so bad, and they couldn't control the puck well because of the surface irregularities. But seeing it at Mullett - described as some of the best ice in the league - puts the kibosh on that.

 

[SniperHF]

I've been noticing this for years with this team, though

Usually it's in like November and December, historically January and February is where we come alive and ruin our draft slot

 

[Bonsai Tree]

Two goals on turnovers by Cooley and Guenther…they’re just young and are going to have growing pains. Part of the process yada yada…

Those two turnovers led to goals. There were about a dozen others, some leading to good chances.

 

[Jakey53]

I saw unforced turnover after turnover last night, and in many of the previous games. Are the turnovers due to players who have cashed it in for this season, players with not enough talent to play at the NHL level, or are they due to poor coaching and/or poor system? We've mostly treated Tourigny with kid gloves for the past 2 years, but perhaps he's not the one for us going forward.

Two critical mistakes were made by Cooley and Guenther, and as you know both rookies.

 

[DustyDangler]

I saw unforced turnover after turnover last night, and in many of the previous games. Are the turnovers due to players who have cashed it in for this season, players with not enough talent to play at the NHL level, or are they due to poor coaching and/or poor system? We've mostly treated Tourigny with kid gloves for the past 2 years, but perhaps he's not the one for us going forward.

It doesn't feel new to me. Schmaltz is typically the most noticeable. Last night, had O zone pressure in the first, He was alone towards the middle and no pressure but the puck just slips off his stick out to the neutral zone and they then had to recover and regain the zone. It feels like a lack of focus, intensity and a general going through the motions thing with him but...same as it ever was.

On D, Valimaki is the most noticeable to me. Just seems like he and the puck are always fighting.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Two goals on turnovers by Cooley and Guenther…they’re just young and are going to have growing pains. Part of the process yada yada…

“The NHL in not a development league”. DT

“The league is a stupid league”. JT

 

[Coyotedroppings]

It doesn't feel new to me. Schmaltz is typically the most noticeable. Last night, had O zone pressure in the first, He was alone towards the middle and no pressure but the puck just slips off his stick out to the neutral zone and they then had to recover and regain the zone. It feels like a lack of focus, intensity and a general going through the motions thing with him but...same as it ever was.

On D, Valimaki is the most noticeable to me. Just seems like he and the puck are always fighting.

Schmaltz had a rough game last night. Most likely intentional, what with all the scouts up top
And there was a LOT of scouts.