Tuesday February 15th GDT News Updates Only. No discussion.

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MissConduct22

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Can someone translate this article. Local radio show host was reading the rds site saying they were meeting today. But i dont read french.

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/172646.html

Tuesday February 15, 2005 - New York (PC) - A a few hours of the probable advertisement of the cancellation of the season 2004-2005 of the national League of Hockey, the Association of the players would have subjected, late Monday evening, an offer of wage ceiling which would however have been rejected by the leaders of the circuit.

According to what learned the English network from NTR, the offer of the players comprised a wage ceiling being established to 52 million $ US per team. She would have been proposed in the Niagara Falls, in the State of New York, by Ted Saskin, the representative of the players, with its with respect to the national League, Bill Daly.

Never, up to now, the Association of the players had not adhered to the principle of the wage ceiling.

This offer constituted a response to a proposal has been just tended by the league, made up of a wage ceiling tight to 40 million $ US and of a device binding the wage bill of the players to the incomes of the national League.

The proposal of the players would have also comprised a reduction of 24 percent of the wages being reproduced on the contracts in force, just as a modification of the threshold of imposition of the teams on their wage bills.

In spite of these developments, it remains expected tomorrow that the police chief of the national League, Gary Bettman, announces the cancellation of the season 2004-05 at the time of a press conference, afternoon, in New York. This advertisement was to occur today, but it was pushed back 12 midnight because of the ultimate meeting of yesterday between Bill Daly and Ted Saskin.

Yesterday, at the end of the evening, the national League affirmed that no progress had been recorded after five months of lockout.

The national League of hockey would become the first professional circuit in North America to entirely cancel its regular season.
 

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The Fan590 is reporting the Ottawa Sun story that says that Roenick, Iginla, and Pronger are pushing hard for Goodenow to propose a $42m cap. You can read the article at http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2005/02/15/931193-sun.html. Although it is Garrioch, he may actually be on to something (hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again). 590 just had Mike Brophy, a senior writer from the hockey news, who says that Iginla and Pronger were indeed the driving force in getting the negotations going again yesterday.
 

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Details of the Proposals
NHLPA
A cap of $52 million but with provisions for teams to spend as much as 10 per cent more than that on three occasions in a six-year period, with a luxury tax incorporated. The luxury tax rates would be 25 per cent on $40-44 million; 50 per cent on $44-48 million; 75 per cent on $48-52 million and 150 per cent on $52-$57.2 million.

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- A hard cap of $40 million, with a 50 per cent luxury tax on $34-40 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/news_story.asp?ID=115014&hubName=main
 

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incawg said:
The Fan590 is reporting the Ottawa Sun story that says that Roenick, Iginla, and Pronger are pushing hard for Goodenow to propose a $42m cap. You can read the article at http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2005/02/15/931193-sun.html. Although it is Garrioch, he may actually be on to something (hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again). 590 just had Mike Brophy, a senior writer from the hockey news, who says that Iginla and Pronger were indeed the driving force in getting the negotations going again yesterday.

It seems like Roenick is really trying to do something:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/hearsay.jsp
 

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More from Sportsnet:

"Sportsnet has learned that the National Hockey League is considering making a counter proposal off the NHLPA's initial salary cap offer of $52 million, perhaps as early as today.

One source close to the negotiations believes a deal can be reached now that the philosophical differences have been bridged, though there is still considerable work to be done.

"It's just a matter of crunching numbers now," a source said. "Now that linkage is out of the equation, the players don't have to worry about the league's books and trusting their numbers."

"As of noon Tuesday, there had not been any meetings between the two sides, although it is believed a counter proposal from the league could come later in the day.""

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Anyone heard anything yet??? or are they going to wait until noon tomorrow to talk.
 

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Kypreos on the FAN590 says that to this point of the day, (5:35.. 5 mins ago)... That there has not been any communication between the two.... That he is aware of.
 

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The NHL has filed a counter-proposal to the NHL Players' Association offer, upping the salary cap to $42.5 million. The NHL has told NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow that it's a final offer with no flexibility or room to negotiate and must have a response by 11 a.m. tomorrow
 

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Bob McCown is reading an email from Bettman to Goodenow.

Whhhoooowww very condesending, McCown is off the Bettman fan club.
 

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vanlady said:
Bob McCown is reading an email from Bettman to Goodenow.

Whhhoooowww very condesending, McCown is off the Bettman fan club.

If it's the one published on the TSN site, I don't see anything "condescending" at all. I find it actually very civil, putting the last few cards down on the table.
 

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TSN Sportscentre (TV) says the NHLPA are working on a counter-proposal

edit -- The NHLPA have offered a $49M counter-proposal
 

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The full details from Goodenow's letter at http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=115069:

NEW CBA DEAL POINTS

1. Term - 6 full seasons (through 9-15-11).

2. CBA System Incorporation of NHLPA December 9, 2004 proposal into the recently expired CBA, with indexing of financial provisions (per diems, etc.) at 2% per year, with the following additional changes requested by the NHL yesterday:

(a) Increased salary arbitration rights for Clubs -- to be agreed upon. Salary arbitration available after Player leaves Entry Level System.

(b) Cap on Exhibit 5 Individual B Performance Bonuses -- to be agreed upon.

(c) Replace NHLPA Revenue Sharing Plan with NHL Revenue Sharing Plan to share at least $88M in each year of the Agreement. Clubs may credit any payroll taxes paid against their revenue sharing contribution.

3. Team Payroll Limit - $49M in salary and bonuses

4. Minimum Team Payroll - $25M (each team can fall no more than 10% below only twice during term).

5. Minimum Player Salary - $300K (as per NHL Proposal)

6. Payroll Taxes - $40M - $43M (25%)
$43M - $46M (50%)
$46M - $49M (75%)
$49M - $53.9M (150%) only twice per team during 6 year term

7. Indexing of Tax Rates and Payroll Minimums & Maximums All dollar amounts would be in place for 2004-05 (pro-rated) and 2005-06. Dollar levels for tax rates, payroll minimums & maximums for subsequent years either constant or increased by % change in greater of either hockey related revenues or only the gate receipts and broadcasting segments of hockey related revenues from the 2005-06 base year.

8. 2005 Playoffs 55% of playoff revenues to be paid to Players for the 2005 playoffs.
 
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