TSN reports proposal was made today (2.9.05) by the NHL and PA rejected .

waffledave · Feb 9, 2005

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=114287

Not only did the NHL make a new proposal to the NHL Players' Association today, it has already been rejected.

TSN has learned the NHL and NHL Players' Association met today in Toronto. Sources say the league presented a new proposal to the NHLPA, but it was apparently turned down.

That, however, does not preclude the possibility of the two sides meeting again tonight or tomorrow.

Sources say the league told the NHLPA that if they aren't close to an agreement by the weekend, the season will be cancelled.

More to follow.

Update:

Sources told TSN the NHL's Wednesday proposal was to begin play immediately using the NHLPA's Dec. 9 proposal until such time it became clear the proposal was not working, at which time the system would switch over to the NHL's proposal of Feb. 2.

That apparently was not well received by the NHLPA, which believed this compromise proposal from the league was just a way to get to the hard-cap economic system in place if not now, at some point in the near future.

Very interesting...

Vic Rattlehead* · Feb 9, 2005

waffledave said:
TSN.ca

Proposal was made today and already got rejected by the PA.

WTF???

WhalerBoy · Feb 9, 2005

wow, didnt see that coming. Wonder what it was, and why it was so quickly turned down.

Im assuming it was at least somewhat closer to PA side than last week's, if not, then why bother. Maybe it used the word "linkage", the players saw that, and said NOPE.

a little bit of :dunno:

, a lot more :banghead:

the hits just keep on coming

Jasper · Feb 9, 2005

At least the NHL is trying..

Goodenow has to get off his fat ass.

Ar-too · Feb 9, 2005

This is just wacky...

They should make a movie, call it Gary and Bob's Depressing Mis-Adventure

Charge_Seven · Feb 9, 2005

Interesting, however it shows that they've tried to move out of the media's view a bit...let's hope a counter proposal comes now.

HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN · Feb 9, 2005

WhalerBoy said:
wow, didnt see that coming. Wonder what it was, and why it was so quickly turned down.

Im assuming it was at least somewhat closer to PA side than last week's, if not, then why bother. Maybe it used the word "linkage", the players saw that, and said NOPE.

Probably didn't change much, if at all, if it took them one meeting to kaibosh it. This is getting ridiculous. I'm really not sure who is dumber, the players or the owners..... :shakehead

Greschner4 · Feb 9, 2005

19bruins19 said:
WTF???

It was turned down because despite all the leaks and trial balloons the PA is sticking firm to its utterly preposterous and indefensible anti-cap stance.

F em.

waffledave · Feb 9, 2005

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp;jsessionid=PIJIKBGNHDKH?content=20050209_170047_5064

Press availibility by Gary Bettman at 6:30...

Does this mean a press conference?

TruGr1t · Feb 9, 2005

Greschner4 said:
It was turned down because despite all the leaks and trial balloons the PA is sticking firm to its utterly preposterous and indefensible anti-cap stance.

F em.

Yah I get the no linkage argument, but what the heck, take a cap.

TruGr1t · Feb 9, 2005

waffledave said:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp;jsessionid=PIJIKBGNHDKH?content=20050209_170047_5064

Press availibility by Gary Bettman at 6:30...

Does this mean a press conference?

Probably just to officially announce the drop dead date. That's right, drop dead Bob.

chiavsfan · Feb 9, 2005

The PA is getting Pejorative Slured...come up with your own proposal too instead of always *****ing about the other side

firstroundbust · Feb 9, 2005

f this crap

I am so sick of this sh*t

Greschner4 · Feb 9, 2005

waffledave said:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp;jsessionid=PIJIKBGNHDKH?content=20050209_170047_5064

Press availibility by Gary Bettman at 6:30...

Does this mean a press conference?

DDD at 6:30.

Season's over.

A big problem, mentioned but not enough ... the NHL is caught up in the impending labor problems of the other leagues who see the NHL as a critical precedent.

Eddie Vedder · Feb 9, 2005

HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN said:
Probably didn't change much, if at all, if it took them one meeting to kaibosh it. This is getting ridiculous. I'm really not sure who is dumber, the players or the owners.....

players.

417 · Feb 9, 2005

This just goes to prove that it dosen't take TSN or Sportsnet to report a meeting for their to be talks or proposals drafted...there's so many behind the scenes things going on...

Now it wasn't like the PA was going to accept whatever proposal the NHL was going to put forth, if it was that easy, we wouldn't be in this situation, there's still some time left, they'll continue negotiating up until the 11th hour, we haven't reached that point yet, and to expect a deal before that, is being unreasonable...

Greschner4 · Feb 9, 2005

HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN said:
Probably didn't change much, if at all, if it took them one meeting to kaibosh it. This is getting ridiculous. I'm really not sure who is dumber, the players or the owners.....

Players. Taking marching orders from a guy who's fighting other PA's battles instead of just his own.

gobuds · Feb 9, 2005

Greschner4 said:
DDD at 6:30.

Season's over.

A big problem, mentioned but not enough ... the NHL is caught up in the impending labor problems of the other leagues who see the NHL as a critical precedent.

Please tell me you are not suggesting as a certain blogger is that the other leagues are funding the NHL's lockout.....

TruGr1t · Feb 9, 2005

Greschner4 said:
Players. Taking marching orders from a guy who's fighting other PA's battles instead of just his own.

The Owners are doing this also (note I am not pro-player). There was a recent quote about how the owners feel they are not just standing up for this strike, but the upcoming baseball strike. Who the hell cares about the goddamn baseball strike.

WHARF1940 · Feb 9, 2005

417 TO MTL said:
This just goes to prove that it dosen't take TSN or Sportsnet to report a meeting for their to be talks or proposals drafted...there's so many behind the scenes things going on...

Now it wasn't like the PA was going to accept whatever proposal the NHL was going to put forth, if it was that easy, we wouldn't be in this situation, there's still some time left, they'll continue negotiating up until the 11th hour, we haven't reached that point yet, and to expect a deal before that, is being unreasonable...

right on brother, stay strong, we're almost there!!! And then you and I can start an "I told you so!!" thread!

Crazy Lunatic · Feb 9, 2005

gobuds said:
Please tell me you are not suggesting as a certain blogger is that the other leagues are funding the NHL's lockout.....

I wouldn't find that hard to believe at all. Would you put it past the baseball union to do that? I sure as crap wouldn't. If the NHL gets any form of cap whatsoever, baseball players are screwed and they know it.

Greschner4 · Feb 9, 2005

gobuds said:
Please tell me you are not suggesting as a certain blogger is that the other leagues are funding the NHL's lockout.....

No, just that Goodenow's getting peer pressure from the "union" leaders in other sports. And he feels it.

He's fighting more than just his own PAs battle, of that I have little question.

MLH · Feb 9, 2005

westcoast said:
Who the hell cares about the goddamn baseball strike.

Tom Hicks.

Greschner4 · Feb 9, 2005

Crazy Lunatic said:
I wouldn't find that hard to believe at all. Would you put it past the baseball union to do that? I sure as crap wouldn't. If the NHL gets any form of cap whatsoever, baseball players are screwed and they know it.

I wouldn't put it past them at all, and there would really be nothing unethical about it if they were.

It IS unethical for Goodenow to do anything other than what is in the best interest of his members ....

Greschner4 · Feb 9, 2005

westcoast said:
The Owners are doing this also (note I am not pro-player). There was a recent quote about how the owners feel they are not just standing up for this strike, but the upcoming baseball strike. Who the hell cares about the goddamn baseball strike.

The owners represent themselves.

Goodenow represents other people.

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