Discussion in 'The Business of Hockey' started by ColoradoHockeyFan, Jul 20, 2005.
I think they will vote yes.
I think that's a pretty safe bet.
If this isn't ratified in a complete landslide, I'll be absolutely shocked. And by landslide, I'm talking upper 90's for a percentage.
What are you confused about?
230 players? That's it? What, something more important come up?
A lot of the players are in Europe. Some didn't want to go. Yet others are going to vote yes (and vice versa) no matter what is in the CBA. 230 is a little low, but it's not unexpected.
IMO the low turnout also shows the trust the players have in their team reps to do the heavy lifting and give everyone else the abridged version.
Jody Shelley had a friend's wedding to attend
It didnt seem like alot of players showed up...
Well judging from the interviews I saw with players at the meeting, I think I can confidently say they will vote yes. Everyone just seems really eager to get back on the ice and doing what they do best.
i'm assuming that most of the 500 players who are following on the internet will vote yes
I reckon we'll be slightly surprised by the number of 'No' votes from this thing. Something tells me there'll be more than a few.
Bold statement there, with 700+ members I would imagne that one or 2 would vote no...maybe even 1 or 2 hundred, but it wont be enough
Well I was talking around 20% of all votes, really. Not just a handful.
To add to that, I think its much more likely people who came to Toronto in person will vote no than people following on the Internet-- most of the guys following on the Internet pretty much are like, yeah whatever, lets just play, while the guys who came to Toronto are the ones who really wanted to look at the deal.
I agree with you....
But again the number wont matter, as long as it's passed. And personally, I think the people that vote no shouldn't be allowed to play in the league...because they obviously (In their mind) would be better off somewhere else
on a Thursday?
hey, its much cheaper to book something on a thursday
Kypreos on Sportsnet even said last night that all the players in europe were offered plane tickets to come over...
I understand the guys in Europe not going. The plane ride is a killer for some of them (even if they were offered tickets), plus the jet lag. Especially if they already know how they are going to vote. I think most of those at the meeting want information and are sitting on the fence, but at the end of the day, I think a large percentage will vote yes. The Europeans also will be returning to NA in a couple of weeks anyway to start training, getting their kids in school, etc, so it a long, hard, unnceccessary trip considering that.
As much as it is nice to here deals from the hoses mouth there is a reason these guys elect team reps. The team reps have been briefed in detail and will relay the information to those that did not attend. Not a big deal that all of them didn't attend.
The info is never as reliable second hand. Another thing: If I was the PA, I would encourage ratification, but ask members to keep it really close. Something like 60/40. Reason being is to remind the owners that this deal is not what they were looking for and that next time around bargaining will have to be progressive rather than regressive.
I'd like to know how you'd do that without risking accidental disaster considering most the players aren't even there. Imagine if too many people voted "no"...
Anyways that sort of plan would require the NHLPA to be completely on the same page and 100% trusting of each other and they quite clearly aren't at the moment.
Agreed that they are not on the same page. Perhaps the best they can ask for is 25% voting no. I do feel it would be a huge mistake for the PA to ratify this deal at over 90% approval. It sends a message of utter defeat. Reluctantly accepting with many unhappy, would be a better strategy.
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