Tryamkin's May 2018 Top 300 Draft Rankings

Tryamkin

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As my 2nd last ranking, I can say that this is one of my favorite classes ever. I love some of the plays and think there are some real dark horse players in here. Next month for my final ranking, it will include and in depth write up on all 217 of my projected draft picks. Enjoy, and as always feel free to ask any questions.

1. D Rasmus Dahlin
2. LW/RW Andrei Svechnikov
3. LW/RW Filip Zadina
4. D Quinn Hughes
5. RW Oliver Wahlstrom
6. D Evan Bouchard
7. D Adam Boqvist
8. D Noah Dobson
9. C Jesperi Kotkaniemi
10. LW Brady Tkachuk
11. RW Vitali Kravtsov
12. D Ty Smith
13. LW Joel Farabee
14. LW/RW Dominik Bokk
15. LW Grigori Denisenko
16. C Rasmus Kupari
17. RW Martin Kaut
18. C Joe Veleno
19. D K'Andre Miller
20. C Barrett Hayton
21. D Nils Lundqvist
22. LW Jonatan Berggren
23. D Ryan Merkley
24. D Bode Wilde
25. D Calen Addison
26. C Isac Lundestrom
27. RW Akil Thomas
28. D Rasmus Sandin
29. D Alexander Alexeyev
30. RW Serron Noel
31. D Matthias Samuelsson
32. C Jacob Olofsson
33. C Ty Dellandrea
34. C Jack McBain
35. RW Niklas Nordgren
36. D Jared McIssac
37. D Jonathan Tychonick
38. D Jett Woo
39. C Alexander Khovanov
40. C Blake McLaughlin
41. C Filip Hallander
42. C Milos Roman
43. LW Bulat Shafagulin
44. C Ryan McLeod
45. C Jake Wise
46. C Cole Fonstad
47. RW Jesse Ylonen
48. D Jacob Bernard-Docker
49. C Liam Foudy
50. C Jakub Lauko
51. C/LW Benoit-Olivier Groulx
52. C/LW Phillip Kurashev
53. RW Kirill Marchenko
54. LW Sampo Ranta
55. C Jay O'Brien
56. C Cameron Hillis
57. C Curtis Hall
58. D Danila Galenyuk
59. LW Ruslan Ishakov
60. G Lukas Dotsal
61. C Jack Drury
62. D Nicholas Beaudin
63. C Ivan D. Morozov
64. D Adam Ginning
65. LW Albin Eriksson
66. RW/C Ryan O'Reilly
67. C Kyle Topping
68. RW Dmitri Zavgorodny
69. LW Nando Eggenberger
70. LW Anderson MacDonald
71. RW Kody Clark
72. D Axel Andersson
73. C Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
74. D Sean Durzi
75. G Jakub Skarek
76. C Allan McShane
77. D Martin Fehevary
78. C Oscar Back
79. C Jachym Kondelik
80. C C Jacob Pivonka
81. C David Gustafsson
82. LW Vladislav Kotkov
83. D Kevin Bahl
84. C Blade Jenkins
85. D Giovanni Vallati
86. C Gavin Hain
87. D Xavier Bouchard
88. LW/C Adam Liska
89. C Alexander Zhabreyev
90. D Filip Kral
91. C Aidan Dudas
92. C/RW Matej Pekar
93. C/LW Marcus Westfalt
94. D Adam Samuelsson
95. LW Tyler Weiss
96. D Jordan Harris
97. C Riley Damiani
98. C/RW Linus Karlsson
99. RW Ryan Chyzowski
100. C Curtis Douglas
101. LW Gabriel Fortier
102. G Alexis Gravel
103. D Alec Regula
104. C Eric Florchuk
105. G Jacob Ingham
106. D Jacob Ragnarsson
107. LW Johnny Gruden
108. D Toni Utunen
109. LW/C Yegor Sokolov
110. D Xavier Bernard
111. G Amir Miftakhov
112. D Nico Gross
113. D Scott Perunovich
114. D Danila Zhuravlyov
115. C Nathan Dunkley
116. RW Riley Sutter
117. D Spencer Stastney
118. C Damien Giroux
119. D Stanislav Demin
120. D Denis Busby
121. RW Kirill Nizhnikov
122. LW Jan Jenik
123. RW Tyler Madden
124. RW Ryan Savage
125. D Ty Emberson
126. LW Jackson Leppard
127. RW Samuel Fagemo
128. RW Lenni Killinen
129. G Oliver Rodrigue
130. C Logan Hutsko
131. G Justus Annunen
132. C Luka Burzan
133. C Carl Wassenius
134. C Brady Hinz
135. C Colin Schmidt
136. RW Jack Perbix
137. C Matthias Emilio Pettersen
138. D Carter Robertson
139. D Filip Johansson
140. C Riley Stotts
141. RW Nikita Rtischev
142. LW Krystof Hrabik
143. LW Chase Wouters
144. D Joey Keane
145. LW Liam Kirk
146. RW Matthew Grouchy
147. G Kevin Mandolese
148. C Brendan Budy
149. C Tristen Nielsen
150. C/LW Justin Almeida
151. LW/C Lukas Wernblom
152. D Owen Lalonde
153. D Declan Chisholm
154. RW Pavel Gogolev
155. G Jordan Kooy
156. D Saku Vesterinen
157. LW Jack Jensen
158. RW Michal Kvasnica
159. D Chase Hartje
160. C/RW Austin Wong
161. D Ondrej Buchtela
162. RW Arttu Nevasaari
163. C Tyler Popowich
164. D Michal Ivan
165. D Santeri Salmela
166. D Christian Lindberg
167. D Caleb Everett
168. G Jett Alexander
169. D Bogdan Zhilyakov
170. LW Angus Crookshank
171. D Miska Kukkonen
172. C/LW Johan Sodergren
173. C Adam Gajarsky
174. RW/C Patrick Giles
175. D Austin Chorney
176. G Keegan Karki
177. LW David Levin
178. C Samuel Bitten
179. C Connor Roberts
180. D Juuso Ketola
181. D Libor Zabransky
182. C Cedric Desruisseaux
183. LW/C Nikita A. Rozhkov
184. D Michael Kesselring
185. LW Linus Nyman
186. RW German Grachyov
187. LW Karel Plasek
188. D Marc Del Gaizo
189. D Michael Callahan
190. C Paul Cotter
191. RW Brodi Stuart
192. LW Jake Gricius
193. C Jack DeBoer
194. D Wyatte Wylie
195. D Radim Salda
196. C Mikhail Bitsadze
197. D Merrick Rippon
198. D Adam McCormick
199. G Jake Kucharski
200. C Andrej Kukuca
201. C/LW Alexander Steeves
202. D Zach Malik
203. LW Gustav Lindberg
204. LW Matej Blumel
205. LW Damir Bilyalov
206. C Yegor Sharangovich
207. LW Samuel Salonen
208. C Matthew Struthers
209. RW Gillian Kohler
210. LW Simon Appleqvist
211. RW Pavel Rotenberg
212. D Adam Thilander
213. RW Pavel Shen
214. D Sean Comrie
215. G Justin Blanchette
216. D Connor Corcoran
217. D Nikita Solopanov
218. D Anton Malyshev
219. D Max Crozier
220. C/LW Emil Oskanen
221. RW/D Nicolas Guay
222. C Cason Focht
223. D Alexander Romanov
224. C Brett Kemp
225. RW Eetu Pakkila
226. RW Nikolai Kovalenko
227. LW Jack Randl
228. D Tomas Dajcar
229. D Nikita Zorkin
230. D Gleb Babinstev
231. RW Jeremi Gerber
232. LW Samuel Bucek
233. D Luke Zazula
234. RW Liam Kindree
235. C Matthias Laferriere
236. C Eli Zummack
237. C Hunter Holmes
238. LW Jacob Tortora
239. RW/C Kristian Reichel
240. G David Tendeck
241. D Brady Lyle
242. LW/RW Severi Lahtinen
243. C Danila Dyadenkin
244. D Jacob Semik
245. D Antoine Crete-Belzile
246. D Christian Krygier
247. C Griffin Ness
248. C Andrew Coxhead
249. C Leo Klimov
250. C Ryan Peckford
251. G Jesper Myrenberg
252. D Jack Lagerstrom
253. D Tim Berni
254. D Vladislav Yeryomenko
255. C Adam McMaster
256. D Tyler Tucker
257. D Simon Johansson
258. D Peter Stratis
259. G Dean McNabb
260. C Luke Burghardt
261. LW Oliver Okuliar
262. C Zach Solow
263. D Yegor Samula
264. LW/C Brad Ginnell
265. RW Bryan Lockner
266. LW James Malm
267. G Olof Lindblom
268. D Dylan Plouffe
269. RW Martin Pospisil
270. D Tommy Miller
271. C William Moskal
272. C Noah Prokop
273. RW Spencer Moe
274. G Joel Hofer
275. C Elijah Brown
276. LW Orca Weisblatt
277. LW Kaid Oliver
278. C Tyce Thompson
279. LW Matthew MacDougall
280. C Jakob Heljemo
281. D Martin Bucko
282. D Seth Barton
283. RW Jeremy McKenna
284. D Justin MacPherson
285. RW Thomas Maia
286. C/LW Braden Costello
287. LW/C Peter Gritz
288. D Michael Gaspar
289. LW Ivan Drozdov
290. C Jan Kalus
291. D Justin Bergeron
292. D Georgii Dedov
293. C/RW Oliver True
294. RW Max Ellis
295. C Ty Kolle
296. RW Dennis Miller
297. D Alexis Girard
298. C Sandro Schmid
299. RW Eetu Maki
300. C Mitchell Hoelscher

(Thanks to @SniperHF )
 
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I am impressed. This is how you rank them, not a prediction of where they'll be drafted, yes|?
I am soooo looking forward to the 217 write-ups!
Some people have ranked this draft as a mediocre one, and that kind of boggled me. Lots of depth in my opinion. Past the top ten, it is quite a crapshoot to try and figure where and when guys will go.
As for your own first ten, no arguments here, but check out the number of D in the top ten - 50%. As a matter of fact, you have 18 D in the first 40, which tells us just how strong the D core are, OR how weak the forward class (Center, really) is by comparison.

Depends if teams want a center, then, for guys in the low 30s (Olaffson, Dellandrea, McBain) to break into first round.
I think Foudy is misplaced - I'd put him in the 30s.
You think Brady Tkachuk will fall?
 

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I am impressed. This is how you rank them, not a prediction of where they'll be drafted, yes|?
I am soooo looking forward to the 217 write-ups!
Some people have ranked this draft as a mediocre one, and that kind of boggled me. Lots of depth in my opinion. Past the top ten, it is quite a crapshoot to try and figure where and when guys will go.
As for your own first ten, no arguments here, but check out the number of D in the top ten - 50%. As a matter of fact, you have 18 D in the first 40, which tells us just how strong the D core are, OR how weak the forward class (Center, really) is by comparison.

Depends if teams want a center, then, for guys in the low 30s (Olaffson, Dellandrea, McBain) to break into first round.
I think Foudy is misplaced - I'd put him in the 30s.
You think Brady Tkachuk will fall?
Yeah, it’s mostly a combination of rankings and predictions. In my final write up, I will go a little more drastically towards players I think are going to be better in the long run. I’ll have a mock draft to predict where I think they’ll go. They’ll both come out in June.

Foudy is a great player, I’ve been calling on him to leap the entire year. He could be somewhere around mid 30’s, but I think teams will try to go BPA and he’ll go somewhere around mid 2nd.

I’ve voiced myself as a well known Tkachuk “hater”. I think he’s a gritty two way winger at best, and in this draft, that’s somewhere around 9-11 range.
 
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As my 2nd last ranking, I can say that this is one of my favorite classes ever. I love some of the plays and think there are some real dark horse players in here. Next month for my final ranking, it will include and in depth write up on all 217 of my projected draft picks. Enjoy, and as always feel free to ask any questions.

1. D Rasmus Dahlin
2. LW/RW Andrei Svechnikov
3. LW/RW Filip Zadina
4. D Quinn Hughes
5. RW Oliver Wahlstrom
6. D Evan Bouchard
7. D Adam Boqvist
8. D Noah Dobson
9. C Jesperi Kotkaniemi
10. LW Brady Tkachuk
11. RW Vitali Kravtsov
12. D Ty Smith
13. LW Joel Farabee
14. LW/RW Dominik Bokk
15. LW Grigori Denisenko
16. C Rasmus Kupari
17. RW Martin Kaut
18. C Joe Veleno
19. D K'Andre Miller
20. C Barrett Hayton
21. D Nils Lundqvist
22. LW Jonatan Berggren
23. D Ryan Merkley
24. D Bode Wilde
25. D Calen Addison
26. C Isac Lundestrom
27. RW Akil Thomas
28. D Rasmus Sandin
29. D Alexander Alexeyev
30. RW Serron Noel
31. D Matthias Samuelsson
32. C Jacob Olofsson
33. C Ty Dellandrea
34. C Jack McBain
35. RW Niklas Nordgren
36. D Jared McIssac
37. D Jonathan Tychonick
38. D Jett Woo
39. C Alexander Khovanov
40. C Blake McLaughlin
41. C Filip Hallander
42. C Milos Roman
43. LW Bulat Shafagulin
44. C Ryan McLeod
45. C Jake Wise
46. C Cole Fonstad
47. RW Jesse Ylonen
48. D Jacob Bernard-Docker
49. C Liam Foudy
50. C Jakub Lauko
51. C/LW Benoit-Olivier Groulx
52. C/LW Phillip Kurashev
53. RW Kirill Marchenko
54. LW Sampo Ranta
55. C Jay O'Brien
56. C Cameron Hillis
57. C Curtis Hall
58. D Danila Galenyuk
59. LW Ruslan Ishakov
60. G Lukas Dotsal
61. C Jack Drury
62. D Nicholas Beaudin
63. C Ivan D. Morozov
64. D Adam Ginning
65. LW Albin Eriksson
66. RW/C Ryan O'Reilly
67. C Kyle Topping
68. RW Dmitri Zavgorodny
69. LW Nando Eggenberger
70. LW Anderson MacDonald
71. RW Kody Clark
72. D Axel Andersson
73. C Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
74. D Sean Durzi
75. G Jakub Skarek
76. C Allan McShane
77. D Martin Fehevary
78. C Oscar Back
79. C Jachym Kondelik
80. C C Jacob Pivonka
81. C David Gustafsson
82. LW Vladislav Kotkov
83. D Kevin Bahl
84. C Blade Jenkins
85. D Giovanni Vallati
86. C Gavin Hain
87. D Xavier Bouchard
88. LW/C Adam Liska
89. C Alexander Zhabreyev
90. D Filip Kral
91. C Adian Dudas
92. LW Tyler Weiss
93. C/LW Marcus Westfalt
94. D Adam Samuelsson
95. C/RW Matej Pekar
96. D Jordan Harris
97. C Riley Damiani
98. C/RW Linus Karlsson
99. RW Ryan Chyzowski
100. C Curtis Douglas
101. LW Gabriel Fortier
102. G Alexis Gravel
103. D Alec Regula
104. C Eric Florchuk
105. G Jacob Ingham
106. D Jacob Ragnarsson
107. LW Johnny Gruden
108. D Toni Utunen
109. LW/C Yegor Sokolov
110. D Xavier Bernard
111. G Amir Miftakhov
112. D Nico Gross
113. D Scott Perunovich
114. D Danila Zhuravlyov
115. C Nathan Dunkley
116. RW Riley Sutter
117. LW Tyler Weiss
118. C Damien Giroux
119. D Stanislav Demin
120. D Denis Busby
121. RW Kirill Nizhnikov
122. LW Jan Jenik
123. RW Tyler Madden
124. RW Ryan Savage
125. D Ty Emberson
126. LW Jackson Leppard
127. RW Samuel Fagemo
128. RW Lenni Killinen
129. G Oliver Rodrigue
130. C Logan Hutsko
131. G Justus Annunen
132. C Luka Burzan
133. C Carl Wassenius
134. C Brady Hinz
135. D Miska Kukkonen
136. RW Jack Perbix
137. C Matthias Emilio Pettersen
138. D Carter Robertson
139. D Filip Johansson
140. C Riley Stotts
141. RW Nikita Rtischev
142. LW Krystof Hrabik
143. LW Chase Wouters
144. D Joey Keane
145. LW Liam Kirk
146. RW Matthew Grouchy
147. G Kevin Mandolese
148. C Brendan Budy
149. C Tristen Nielsen
150. C/LW Justin Almeida
151. LW/C Lukas Wernblom
152. D Owen Lalonde
153. D Declan Chisholm
154. RW Pavel Gogolev
155. G Jordan Kooy
156. D Saku Vesterinen
157. LW Jack Jensen
158. RW Michal Kvasnica
159. D Chase Hartje
160. C/RW Austin Wong
161. D Ondrej Buchtela
162. RW Arttu Nevasaari
163. C Tyler Popowich
164. D Michal Ivan
165. D Santeri Salmela
166. D Christian Lindberg
167. D Caleb Everett
168. G Jett Alexander
169. D Bogdan Zhilyakov
170. LW Angus Crookshank
171. D Miska Kukkonen
172. C/LW Johan Sodergren
173. C Adam Gajarsky
174. C Colin Schmidt
175. D Austin Chorney
176. G Keegan Karki
177. LW David Levin
178. C Samuel Bitten
179. C Connor Roberts
180. D Juuso Ketola
181. D Libor Zabransky
182. C Cedric Desruisseaux
183. LW/C Nikita A. Rozhkov
184. D Michael Kesselring
185. LW Linus Nyman
186. RW German Grachyov
187. LW Karel Plasek
188. D Marc Del Gaizo
189. D Michael Callahan
190. C Paul Cotter
191. RW Brodi Stuart
192. LW Jake Gricius
193. C Jack DeBoer
194. D Wyatte Wylie
195. D Radim Salda
196. C Mikhail Bitsadze
197. D Merrick Rippon
198. D Adam McCormick
199. G Jake Kucharski
200. C Andrej Kukuca
201. C/LW Alexander Steeves
202. D Spencer Stastney
203. LW Gustav Lindberg
204. D Georgii Dedov
205. LW Damir Bilyalov
206. C Yegor Sharangovich
207. LW Samuel Salonen
208. C Matthew Struthers
209. RW Gillian Kohler
210. LW Simon Appleqvist
211. RW Pavel Rotenberg
212. D Adam Thilander
213. RW Pavel Shen
214. D Sean Comrie
215. G Justin Blanchette
216. D Connor Corcoran
217. D Nikita Solopanov
218. D Anton Malyshev
219. D Max Crozier
220. C/LW Emil Oskanen
221. RW/D Nicolas Guay
222. C Cason Focht
223. D Alexander Romanov
224. C Brett Kemp
225. RW Eetu Pakkila
226. RW Nikolai Kovalenko
227. D Zach Malik
228. RW/C Patrick Giles
229. D Nikita Zorkin
230. D Gleb Babinstev
231. RW Jeremi Gerber
232. LW Samuel Bucek
233. D Luke Zazula
234. RW Liam Kindree
235. C Matthias Laferriere
236. C Eli Zummack
237. C Hunter Holmes
238. LW Jacob Tortora
239. RW/C Kristian Reichel
240. G David Tendeck
241. D Brady Lyle
242. LW/RW Severi Lahtinen
243. C Danila Dyadenkin
244. D Jacob Semik
245. D Antoine Crete-Belzile
246. D Christian Krygier
247. C Griffin Ness
248. C Andrew Coxhead
249. C Leo Klimov
250. C Ryan Peckford
251. G Jesper Myrenberg
252. D Jack Lagerstrom
253. D Tomas Dajcar
254. D Vladislav Yeryomenko
255. C Adam McMaster
256. D Tyler Tucker
257. D Simon Johansson
258. LW Jack Randl
259. G Dean McNabb
260. C Luke Burghardt
261. LW Oliver Okuliar
262. C Zach Solow
263. D Yegor Samula
264. LW/C Brad Ginnell
265. RW Bryan Lockner
266. LW James Malm
267. G Olof Lindblom
268. D Dylan Plouffe
269. RW Martin Pospisil
270. D Tommy Miller
271. C William Moskal
272. C Noah Prokop
273. RW Spencer Moe
274. G Joel Hofer
275. C Elijah Brown
276. LW Orca Weisblatt
277. LW Kaid Oliver
278. C Tyce Thompson
279. LW Matthew MacDougall
280. C Jakob Heljemo
281. D Martin Bucko
282. D Seth Barton
283. RW Jeremy McKenna
284. D Justin MacPherson
285. RW Thomas Maia
286. C/LW Braden Costello
287. LW/C Peter Gritz
288. D Michael Gaspar
289. LW Ivan Drozdov
290. C Jan Kalus
291. D Justin Bergeron
292. D Peter Stratis
293. C/RW Oliver True
294. RW Max Ellis
295. C Ty Kolle
296. RW Dennis Miller
297. D Alexis Girard
298. C Sandro Schmid
299. RW Eetu Maki
300. D Tim Berni

(Thanks to @SniperHF )

Nice work. Would a team like the Leafs with one pick in the 20s be better off staying put, or would moving down to grab 2 2nds be worth it? What is the 2nd round depth like? Thanks.
 
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Nice work. Would a team like the Leafs with one pick in the 20s be better off staying put, or would moving down to grab 2 2nds be worth it? What is the 2nd round depth like? Thanks.
Honestly, it depends on who’s left or dropped down to 20. If it’s someone like Denisenko or Kupari, I would pick. If most of the top group is gone, it would make good sense to move back. The depth is quite good, especially if you wanted a center, there will be lots around in the early 2nd.
 

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Switch Kupari with Noel and that's a great list. Glad that you're a Hughes fan as much as I am!
Thanks.
In my personal opinion, Kupari has a high future potential despite not having the most amazing year this year, his offensive skill is high.

Noel has improved his skating this year, but the two things that scared about him are his shot generation (he only had like 100 shots this year) and his consistency. Some nights he’ll just disappear and won’t show up. For that reason I have him at the end of the 1st. Skill and size wise, he’s a mid 1st for sure.
 

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I have no idea where other people are ranking Semyon Der-Arguchintsev but I think his playmaking skills would be welcomed in the Dallas system. Especially if he's around in the 3rd round.
 
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From 15-30 I think that there are so many incomplete players that a lot of them will bust.
 

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It's an interesting list. I don't want to sound like a dick, but here's some questions.

Budy around 150? He's a lot more talented than some of the guys ahead of him. Bahl>Ginning, he's outplaying Ginning at every tournament I saw them together. Ginning struggles making talented plays with the puck while Bahl looks much more natural. Riley Sutter is a higher level prospect than a lot of guys ahead of him, some are, MacDonald, Hillis, Hall and Topping.

Adam Samuelsson shouldn't be drafted in the first 5 rounds, he can't handle the puck. NHL is all about making good plays with the puck and pushing the pace, guys like Chisholm, Vallati, Regula and Bernard are much better.

Olofsson is much better than Kupari, he can make plays Kupari can't, with more size.

Bouchard is the second best D in the draft. Riley Stotts was superb in Calgary after being stuck in the bottom of SC's line-up. Struthers at 208, is just really wrong.
 
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It's an interesting list. I don't want to sound like a dick, but here's some questions.

Budy around 150? He's a lot more talented than some of the guys ahead of him. Bahl>Ginning, he's outplaying Ginning at every tournament I saw them together. Ginning struggles making talented plays with the puck while Bahl looks much more natural. Riley Sutter is a higher level prospect than a lot of guys ahead of him, some are, MacDonald, Hillis, Hall and Topping.

Adam Samuelsson shouldn't be drafted in the first 5 rounds, he can't handle the puck. NHL is all about making good plays with the puck and pushing the pace, guys like Chisholm, Vallati, Regula and Bernard are much better.

Olofsson is much better than Kupari, he can make plays Kupari can't, with more size.

Bouchard is the second best D in the draft. Riley Stotts was superb in Calgary after being stuck in the bottom of SC's line-up. Struthers at 208, is just really wrong.
Budy is great, he’s a little slept on, so he’s lower on the list.

Bahl is good, however his offense is very limited and he’s easily blown by from fast skaters. Ginning struggles making talented plays but is more rounded.

Not sure what you mean by Riley Sutter being a higher level guy over guys listed, he’s a power forward who doesn’t have too much skill, tops out as a top9/bottom six forward for me.

Samuelsson is learning to handle the puck, and slowly getting better, needs to work on his discipline but is a good player with a good toolbox.

Kupari had a down year, he’ll bounce back next year. His offensive potential vastly surpasses that of Olofsson, and his defense isn’t that bad either.

Bouchard as the 2nd best defenseman is a very bold statement, he certainly doesn’t have the 2nd highest potential.. Haven’t watched Struthers for 4 months, it’s almost impossible to keep up with 300 players as you could imagine.
 

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Great, great list. I'll second the opinion that Jake Wise won't go further than the very early second, surely not later than the Habs' picks.
 
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Budy is great, he’s a little slept on, so he’s lower on the list.

Bahl is good, however his offense is very limited and he’s easily blown by from fast skaters. Ginning struggles making talented plays but is more rounded.

Not sure what you mean by Riley Sutter being a higher level guy over guys listed, he’s a power forward who doesn’t have too much skill, tops out as a top9/bottom six forward for me.

Samuelsson is learning to handle the puck, and slowly getting better, needs to work on his discipline but is a good player with a good toolbox.

Kupari had a down year, he’ll bounce back next year. His offensive potential vastly surpasses that of Olofsson, and his defense isn’t that bad either.

Bouchard as the 2nd best defenseman is a very bold statement, he certainly doesn’t have the 2nd highest potential.. Haven’t watched Struthers for 4 months, it’s almost impossible to keep up with 300 players as you could imagine.
How is Ginning more rounded? Is he better defensively, he might skater better north-south, but agility, backwards skating, edges, is much more important for a defenceman which Bahl is superior in. Bahl is much better than Ginning at transitioning the puck with passes, shutting down forwards, and jumping in the rush. Ginning skates better with the puck, that's it.

Riley Sutter might not hand the flashy highlights, but he reminds me of DeBrusk in some ways. He's always around the net when he scores goals, tips the shot or he's "somehow" in that perfect position where the puck lands on his stick after a rebound. Talented players have that ability to get the puck on their stick at the perfect time. Sutter has great hand-eye, tips a lot of shots, he's 6'2 and 200 pounds so he's tough to knock off the puck or push out of the crease. He has more goals than Fonstad, Damiani, Jenkins, Hain, Hillis, Foudy, Eriksson, McLaughin, Drury.

Samuelsson learning to handle the puck doesn't sound convincing. I'd rather draft someone who can handle the puck already and is at another stage in their development. Samuelsson learning to handle the puck was acceptable, maybe when he was 12 years old.

If Kupari had a down year, then so did Olofsson. Olofsson outproduced him at the U17s and U18s a year ago, this year Kupari made the U20 team and won the gold medal at the U18s. Olofsson has been better in his league play, his numbers are up there with guys like Forsberg, Bratt, Burakovsky, and Dahlen. Olofsson has a huge frame and great hockey IQ to go with it, Kupari clearly does not have high level hockey sense or a big frame. I'm taking Olofsson who has dropped this year, for no reason, he's the best forward from Sweden easily.

I just think Bouchard can bring so much offensively, but way more defensively than Hughes and Boqvist. He's engaged defensively, uses his body and doesn't puck watch or cheat out of the zone like the other 2 guys. He can still QB a PP though and his shot is better than Hughes. He can thread needles as good as these guys. He still offers more to the table, he can't skate as good as them, but his skating is overblown and it is clearly not a concern when you watch him play.
 

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How is Ginning more rounded? Is he better defensively, he might skater better north-south, but agility, backwards skating, edges, is much more important for a defenceman which Bahl is superior in. Bahl is much better than Ginning at transitioning the puck with passes, shutting down forwards, and jumping in the rush. Ginning skates better with the puck, that's it.

Riley Sutter might not hand the flashy highlights, but he reminds me of DeBrusk in some ways. He's always around the net when he scores goals, tips the shot or he's "somehow" in that perfect position where the puck lands on his stick after a rebound. Talented players have that ability to get the puck on their stick at the perfect time. Sutter has great hand-eye, tips a lot of shots, he's 6'2 and 200 pounds so he's tough to knock off the puck or push out of the crease. He has more goals than Fonstad, Damiani, Jenkins, Hain, Hillis, Foudy, Eriksson, McLaughin, Drury.

Samuelsson learning to handle the puck doesn't sound convincing. I'd rather draft someone who can handle the puck already and is at another stage in their development. Samuelsson learning to handle the puck was acceptable, maybe when he was 12 years old.

If Kupari had a down year, then so did Olofsson. Olofsson outproduced him at the U17s and U18s a year ago, this year Kupari made the U20 team and won the gold medal at the U18s. Olofsson has been better in his league play, his numbers are up there with guys like Forsberg, Bratt, Burakovsky, and Dahlen. Olofsson has a huge frame and great hockey IQ to go with it, Kupari clearly does not have high level hockey sense or a big frame. I'm taking Olofsson who has dropped this year, for no reason, he's the best forward from Sweden easily.

I just think Bouchard can bring so much offensively, but way more defensively than Hughes and Boqvist. He's engaged defensively, uses his body and doesn't puck watch or cheat out of the zone like the other 2 guys. He can still QB a PP though and his shot is better than Hughes. He can thread needles as good as these guys. He still offers more to the table, he can't skate as good as them, but his skating is overblown and it is clearly not a concern when you watch him play.
Not going to spampost and fill up the page, but I disagree on a few things here. If you’re still around late June when my full rankings come out with writeups, they’ll have details descriptions with my notes on each player and why I chose them where I did. These rankings also focus on where teams could select the players.

Also, Olofsson has been playing in the 2nd tier of Swedish hockey on the most stacked team, Kupari is playing in the top tier in the Liiga, and Kupari only has a few less points. His offensive potential is sky high.
 
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Great work, don't know how you can rank 300! That's a lot.

Some questions about some later rankings.
  • Bit curious as to why Back is higher than Gustafsson. I see Gust as a Lundestrom level player, very similar in their playing style, maybe even better statistically when you consider, Lundestrom plays nearly 5 min more per game. Lundestrom is only 40% on draws, Gust is 50%, both with over 400 draws, so its not a small sample. Younger as well. Then vs Back: comparing on ice performance, i feel Back just doesn't standout much at all offensively, Gust drives the net a lot more. Both equal and strong defensively. Gust's small sample at J20 shows he can produce there at a higher rate than Back. I also thought Gust handedly outplayed Back at the U18s.
  • Weiss behind Hain and Pivonka? I am not sure about that for me. Weiss displays more offensive acumen than both those guys combined. I can see Weiss being the Troy Terry of the NTDP/of this draft; under-rated, but should have a good college career. BTW, you have two Weiss' on your list: 92+117 (Unless there is another one i'm not aware of :laugh:).
 
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