FOurteenS inCisOr
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MDZ and Gudbranson shouldn’t be in the same sentence.
MDZ looked like a competent 4D at times last season, whereas Gud was a tire fire.
I’m fine with MDZ at his term and cap hit.
Player Discussion Troy Stecher, Pt. II
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MDZ and Gudbranson shouldn’t be in the same sentence.
MDZ looked like a competent 4D at times last season, whereas Gud was a tire fire.
I’m fine with MDZ at his term and cap hit.
I still have fairly high hopes for Stecher. It looked like he struggled a lot with bigger players last season, but you can clearly see that the compete level is there and there is some untapped offensive potential in his game. Hopefully, he can take a huge leap next season.
If Quinn Hughes signs and can play either the right and left side; and if Juolevi comes in and surprises at training camp; there's a logjam developing on the Canuck blueline. Obviously Gudbranson, Tanev, Del Zotto and Edler aren't going anywhere. And Biega has been re-upped as a depth d-man. That leaves Hutton, Pouliot and Stecher...not enough ice time for all of them.
Hughes Tanev
Edler del ZOtto
Juolevi Hutton
Biega Stecher
Sent the to moon:
Gudbranson
Waved:
Pouliot
Edler del ZOtto
Juolevi Hutton
Biega Stecher
Sent the to moon:
Gudbranson
Waved:
Pouliot
Not 100 percent certain, but on his entry-level deal can Stecher sent to Utica without having to clear waivers?....and there's no way they're waiving Pouliot or Hutton. Of course all this goes away if Hughes goes back to Michigan for another year and Juolevi lands in Utica, which is likely.
Stecher requires waivers. When he was signed he was 22 so it's either 3 years from signing date or 70 NHL games and he's passed the games played threshold.
ELC doesn't mean you're waiver exempt. Here's the very helpful FAQ on CapFriendly: Waivers FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
I like Stecher a lot. 2 year bridge for Stecher makes sense. He would still be an RFA then. Otherwise, if you can lock him in for 4 years at Del Zotto money I would do that.
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pgj98m3
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By 4D did you mean as a fourth pairing because MDZ didn't come close to being a 4D even on the Canucks
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We need Stetcher for a couple of years still.
Someone has to show Woo around Richmond.
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FOurteenS inCisOr
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Agree to disagree.
He had off nights. He was deployed as the team’s 1D for parts of the season and averaged over 20 minutes a night—he’s in over his head with those minutes against top lines.
I have no problem playing MDZ 15-17 minutes a night and paying him his salary and term.
Bleach Clean
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I'm not sure why?
Is having both of them going to push them over the tipping point for small players?
VasilyHoglander
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He was our second best RHD last year...Guddy is 6'5 and Stecher was better than him by a mile.
Did I read in an earlier threat that MDZ 'looked like a competent 4D at times last season"?. Lol. Jason Botchford just went off on him on TSN 1040....said he was the worst d-man on the roster and has been a healthy scratch on every team he's ever played on, except in VanCity. Possession stats and shot suppression through the roof bad. Maybe he was playing too many minutes. But if you're looking for a waiver candidate, look no further than MDZ....not a chance in the world he'd ever be claimed.
Biega was our 2nd best RHD last year by a fair margin.
I think Stecher is overrated. If you are that size you need to produce some points. The first few months of the seasons Stecher was 7th Ice time for D. Then injuries to Tanev and Gudbranson made Stecher played a lot more minutes. If Stecher was LS instead RS he probably gets some healthy scratches as well. Unless your elite defensively like Tanev, Green wants his D to put up points or be physical. Stecher is not any of them.
I don't quite understand why a lot fans are so high on Stecher. He is no more than a 5th/6th.
If I was GM I would call NJ and offer Stecher + _____ for Severson
I don't quite understand why a lot fans are so high on Stecher. He is no more than a 5th/6th.
If I was GM I would call NJ and offer Stecher + _____ for Severson
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Local boy that's all heart? You keep him around. Get rid of Gud and Del Zotto, horrible the both of them.
How do we measure Heart? To me when somebody said that it's just excuse to pump up that player.
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Stecher is a gamer and you can't fault his effort. But as I see it there isn't one thing that he's really outstanding at. Delivers little offense; often gets worn down in his own zone by bigger forecheckers and doesn't really rush the puck all that often....also really wondering whether there's room for two d-men like Stecher and Hughes on the same blueline?
DL44
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He will definitely improve.
Lots of room to improve in the consistency department.
Experience will improve his overall defensive reliability, and positioning.. and will improve his decision making, instinctual risk taking, when to be aggressive, etc etc..
But by how much? And when?
Management has to make a read on what his ceiling is, make a read on his likelihood of achieving it, and weighing whether he is a piece they want to commit to seeing on their roster long term or not.
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
I think he's been quietly very good this season after a somewhat questionable campaign last year.
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