Trevor Van Riemsdyk

[Deam78]

Good complimentary guy. Should be in the discussion for best 6th/7th D in the league.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

He is far better then a #6/7 defender

 

[McDNicks17]

TVR wasn’t as sheltered as people try and make him out to be, and quite a few players with his deployment do much worse

Huh?

He's like ~160th in TOI% QoC and ~205th in CF% QoC for defensemen who played at least 500 minutes of 5v5 last season.

He was EXTREMELY sheltered.

 

[Machinehead]

Passes the eye test when I've seen him.

One of those guys who will get panned for not playing big minutes but I think more minutes might be worth a shot.

 

[Machinehead]

Saw poster, knew thread was going to be about corsi.

I raise my kids right.

 

[ClydeLee]

Passes the eye test when I've seen him.

One of those guys who will get panned for not playing big minutes but I think more minutes might be worth a shot.

But his Chicago case defies that because he was worse visualwise and stats wise when he played much more in 15-16. The next year more consistently just as a 3rd pair guy again he was fine. And that's how he was for Carolina.

 

[RibFrabcus]

He's a good, efficient 4/5. Glad to have him on the canes.

 

[ColbyChaos]

But his Chicago case defies that because he was worse visualwise and stats wise when he played much more in 15-16. The next year more consistently just as a 3rd pair guy again he was fine. And that's how he was for Carolina.

Worth pointing out though that he basically missed all of the 2015 season (returned for the finals) and went from a #6 role guy to being thrust into a top 4 role due to Oduya leaving and Roszival no longer being a reliable 2nd pair guy after destroying his ankle in that Minnesota series.

 

[biotk]

TVR wasn’t as sheltered as people try and make him out to be, and quite a few players with his deployment do much worse

There is a great recent Athletic article by Dellow called "How Mike Babcock (and others) are sheltering defencemen while playing them against top opposition" which shows how some coaches are deploying some sheltered D in a way which over-inflates their QoC and corsi numbers (meaning they were even more sheltered than the stats indicate and not as good possession-wise as the stats indicate), while making their top pairing/shutdown look worse possession numbers-wise than they should. Carolina was a team that had several D who very high on the list of D who were getting that numbers inflation with TVR, Hanifin and Fleury being among the leagues biggest beneficiaries. (Interestingly, Hamilton, who was traded for Hanifin, was one of the D farthest on the opposite end).

I don't want to explain how as Dellow did a ton of work and should be compensated for it. But to me it was undeniable and changed the way I look at those stats.