Ah, the plus/minus argument.
Please, keep showing me how little you know about hockey
See anything worth a first and two seconds here?
Ah, the plus/minus argument.
Please, keep showing me how little you know about hockey
I never commented on trade value, not once. A player who lives up to expectations is not a let down. It's really that simple, if you expected more, which I assume you did because of your moronic screen shots of stat lines, it's because you were clueless about the type of player Hamonic was. He isn't the guy that's going to put up sexy stats, he's the guy that works, hard, plays sound positionally, makes solid plays and helps your PK. I'm sorry that you lack the acumen to understand that.View attachment 106863
See anything worth a first and two seconds here?
You just completely ignored the fact that your precious defensive defenseman has bad advanced statistics. I personally believe that their shouldn't be anymore one-dimensional defensemen in the NHL anymore. You need to be able to move the puck and be solid defensively, and right now, Hamonic is barely one of those things.I never commented on trade value, not once. A player who lives up to expectations is not a let down. It's really that simple, if you expected more, which I assume you did because of your moronic screen shots of stat lines, it's because you were clueless about the type of player Hamonic was. He isn't the guy that's going to put up sexy stats, he's the guy that works, hard, plays sound positionally, makes solid plays and helps your PK. I'm sorry that you lack the acumen to understand that.
If I need to explain why being a defensive defensemen won't give someoen glowing advanced stats... I'm not going to bother. [mod]You just completely ignored the fact that your precious defensive defenseman has bad advanced statistics. I personally believe that their shouldn't be anymore one-dimensional defensemen in the NHL anymore. You need to be able to move the puck and be solid defensively, and right now, Hamonic is barely one of those things.
Last time I checked, defensive defenseman aren't ****ing minus 5 on the season
I'm sorry FF but STATSAh yes. The -5 defenseman on a team that has a goal differential of -22. Whose most common defense partner that he's played with the majority of the season is -16. Or Mikeal Backlund, the guy who finished 4th in the Selke vote last year, -17.
People have such short memories. Look at the value rental's got at the deadline, and then look at Hamonic's contract, and how much term we are getting from it.
The best defense is a good offenseToday I learned that Dougie Hamilton (+3) is a better defensive defenseman than Travis Hamonic (-5).
Bob Hartley was the best thing that happened to the Flames since Steve Smith scored on his own netHartley fan confirmed
This is how our defensemen rank overall. In terms of defensive ability:
1. Giordano
2. Hamonic
3. Hamilton
4. Kulak
5. Stone
6. Brodie
Flames missed the playoffs because PP1 was awful outside of a pair of outlier games where Hamilton and Monahan had hat tricks.
Bennett does not play on PP1 and the performance of PP2 is virtually irrelevant given the minute splits. You might have a point if Bennett screwed up PP1 somehow but your fake #1C played on that unit, not Bennett.
I don't know about this. Brodie regularly defends one-on-one against the best players in the league and shuts them down. Where he has been an issue this season is with bad turnovers, IMO. His defensive play has actually developed leaps and bounds from when he first broke into the league.
Any proof of this?
I do agree that he had plenty of brain farts
Any proof of this?
I do agree that he had plenty of brain farts
On ice | CF% | FF% | GF% | HDCF% | PDO |
Together 1000+ mins | 51.3 | 50.7 | 45.2 | 52.2 | 0.989 |
Brodie without Hamonic 240 mins | 48.7 | 47.9 | 48.5 | 52.2 | 0.99 |
Hamonic without Brodie 160 mins | 50.8 | 51.1 | 61.5 | 49.23 | 1.027 |
A coach who knows what he's doing could get more out of the bottom 9. Not much more though. More quality depth needed.I’ve watched some of the bruins-lightning and kings-ducks games last few nights and I dunno, just doesn’t seem like we are or will anytime soon be at that level. I’ll be patient through next season but I don’t know how we can get to that level with trading 8-9 top 90 picks in last three years.