FLYguy3911
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Travis Sanheim Discussion Thread Part Two
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well straight from one of my fav players to THE MOST HATED, GG NICE ONESanheim's Christmas wish list
oh ****
Stizzle
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I'm quoting this stat from the Postgame thread. It's just another illustration of how absurd his lack of usage has been.
Although, I think he meant all 5 goals.
Although, I think he meant all 5 goals.
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FLYguy3911
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Nope. 4 goals.
NJ
CGY
BOS x2
Our PP1 defenseman at the moment is -2 on the season fwiw.
FLYguy3911
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Pulled him from the PP after that Boston game and the team scores 4 PP goals. 
Seriously how do you play someone on the top pair, in the last minute of games, but he's not a regular on any of the special teams units? I'm glad he's getting a TOI bump now that whatshisface is gone, but that is mind numbing. I don't think I want to live in a world where Nurse QBs a PP with McDavid on it, and one Travis gets demoted from the 2nd unit of the worst PP in the league after a 2 point game.
Seriously how do you play someone on the top pair, in the last minute of games, but he's not a regular on any of the special teams units? I'm glad he's getting a TOI bump now that whatshisface is gone, but that is mind numbing. I don't think I want to live in a world where Nurse QBs a PP with McDavid on it, and one Travis gets demoted from the 2nd unit of the worst PP in the league after a 2 point game.
Striiker
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He just doesn't have the skating, creativity, or the shot to play point on the PP...Pulled him from the PP after that Boston game and the team scores 4 PP goals.
Seriously how do you play someone on the top pair, in the last minute of games, but he's not a regular on any of the special teams units? I'm glad he's getting a TOI bump now that whatshisface is gone, but that is mind numbing. I don't think I want to live in a world where Nurse QBs a PP with McDavid on it, and one Travis gets demoted from the 2nd unit of the worst PP in the league after a 2 point game.
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Off IR for now
deadhead
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People get weird about Sanheim.
He's shown on the 1st pair that he's really not ready for that responsibility, nor is he comfortable on the right side.
With Gudas, he had a RHD who could handle the physical stuff and got easier matchups and had far better advanced metrics - which just shows that these metrics are heavily influenced by situation and usage. Notice Ghost has similar numbers when paired with Gudas.
This is what I mean by imbalance, and it will take a couple years and probably one trade to work out.
We need to see if Morin is for real in March.
Myers will need 1-2 NHL seasons to figure out what he's doing and use those tremendous physical skills to best advantage.
Then we need to address the LHD/RHD imbalance.
One reason to trade for a veteran RHD, pair him with Provorov, put Sanheim and Myers on the 2nd pair and in 2020-21 we'll have a foursome as good as Nashville. Ghost/Morin/Hagg - Gudas/Friedman can be the third pair until Kalynuk, Zamula, Ginning, Wylie and St Ivany come up.
Otherwise,
Provorov - Myers
Sanheim - Gudas
Morin - Ghost.
He's shown on the 1st pair that he's really not ready for that responsibility, nor is he comfortable on the right side.
With Gudas, he had a RHD who could handle the physical stuff and got easier matchups and had far better advanced metrics - which just shows that these metrics are heavily influenced by situation and usage. Notice Ghost has similar numbers when paired with Gudas.
This is what I mean by imbalance, and it will take a couple years and probably one trade to work out.
We need to see if Morin is for real in March.
Myers will need 1-2 NHL seasons to figure out what he's doing and use those tremendous physical skills to best advantage.
Then we need to address the LHD/RHD imbalance.
One reason to trade for a veteran RHD, pair him with Provorov, put Sanheim and Myers on the 2nd pair and in 2020-21 we'll have a foursome as good as Nashville. Ghost/Morin/Hagg - Gudas/Friedman can be the third pair until Kalynuk, Zamula, Ginning, Wylie and St Ivany come up.
Otherwise,
Provorov - Myers
Sanheim - Gudas
Morin - Ghost.
Tripod
I hate this team
Games over 19 minutes this year:
Under Hak: 3 out of 31 games
Under Gordon: 18 out of 21 games
Under Hak: 3 out of 31 games
Under Gordon: 18 out of 21 games
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
Give the kid minutes and let him learn from his mistakes instead of sitting and we get to see a kid getting more confident every game. Kid is going to be a stud for the next dozen years.
Flyers are winning games with him on the top pair, but he's not ready, Tri.
He needs more time in the AHL.
Beef Invictus
Revolutionary Positivity
Tell yourself whatever you have to believe to avoid facing the fact that your coaching idol misused him and that the team is better with Sanheim playing in Hogg's old role.
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
Sanheim > Hagg
And
Lindblom > Weise
Which is part of why
Gordon (bad coach) > Hak (worse coach)
Also shoutout to Gordon for not playing Hart in back-to-backs.
And
Lindblom > Weise
Which is part of why
Gordon (bad coach) > Hak (worse coach)
Also shoutout to Gordon for not playing Hart in back-to-backs.
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Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
I think he's horrible, but we've just been subjected to the absolute worst for so long that he seems good by comparison.
He's certainly WAY better at player usage and communication though.
I think he's horrible, but we've just been subjected to the absolute worst for so long that he seems good by comparison.
He's certainly WAY better at player usage and communication though.
Yeah, when you have arguably the worst coach in the NHL for 4 years, it's hard to objectively gauge the worth of your interim.
I don't think there's anything Gordon does worse than Hak though, except maybe blankly stare into space as if someone pulled the plug on his brain.
Tripod
I hate this team
I have no issue with anyone saying Sanheim should be in the 2nd pairing. I agree. But he also is a kid who thrives with more icetime as it certainly helps his confidence.
And what we have been starting to see, is Travis get into the faces of top players like Schefele when we played the Jets.
But he should have been getting more minutes all along this year for his own development. It's not about winning or losing games at this point, it's about getting the kids more ready for next year.
Still baffled that he is not being used on the #2 PP ahead of Provy. He is a much better creator.
And what we have been starting to see, is Travis get into the faces of top players like Schefele when we played the Jets.
But he should have been getting more minutes all along this year for his own development. It's not about winning or losing games at this point, it's about getting the kids more ready for next year.
Still baffled that he is not being used on the #2 PP ahead of Provy. He is a much better creator.
Right. I'm not trying to claim that he's a top pairing D today. But the team continues to win with him there. Sure the goaltending situation is improved, but theres something to be said for the fact that the pair hasnt really been split and we keep winning. It's crazy what happens when you don't tinker with your lineup just to tinker.
Tripod
I hate this team
But I do agree with Dead on this one....it's winning because of the upgrade in goaltending.
But last year, we win because our top scorers carried the bad goaltending, D, and coaching.
We still have a very flawed team, system, coaching, etc...But Fletch has lots of assets in prospects, picks, cap space, and an open coaching job to fix this team this summer. Hope he makes the right moves.
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
Sanheim should be on the left side of Gudas and Ghost should be on the right of Provorov. It’s the best way to get the most out of all 4 players.
Then obviously the bottom pair should include Myers.
Then obviously the bottom pair should include Myers.
Exactly! Sanheim looks way more comfotable on his strong side and also he's more useful when not playing against best opponent's forces all game long. His possession metrics on the 2nd pair with Gudas were incredible. As well as not using Provy and Ghost together is stupid. They were one of the best pairs in the entire league last season, they have tremendous chemistry.
This is true. Not sure Gordon is a bad coach. Average with the possibility to improve? Just the ice time figures make for a more positive rating!
BritainStix
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He really is a bad coach. We are regularly outplayed but our star power is winning games.
Esentially the only difference between Hak and Gordon is that Gordon actually plays the best players and doesnt roll the fourth line out for 20 minutes a game. Oh and he doesnt appear to run goaltenders into the ground either.
