Trade Value of: Luke Glendening.

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  1. NEWing

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    Glendenning is a niche player that a playoff team could covet.

    He is not going to drive the offense, but as a defensive specialist, he does well.

    He should be worth a 3rd, possibly a second if several teams are interested.
     
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    If anyone offers a third for him, we should run laughing, frankly.
     
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    I'm not sure why this thread got bumped but the answer to your question is because the team is rebuilding.

    They don't need to go to the ends of the earth to try and move him but if there was interest and a decent return then absolutely.
     
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    This is the answer. Hes a guy that by the time the wings are competitive again, he wont be doing what he does right now. Getting a decent pick for him that can potentially turn into something for that point in time when theyre competitive again should be the goal. I wouldnt give him away for free, but a playoff team could get good use out of him. Strictly on the fourth line, tell him to be a pest and throw his weight around, kill penalties and take big faceoffs. Lots of playoff teams would get really good use out of him but the wings arent one of those teams right now
     
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    I think Babs would love to have him. Even last year he referred to Glendening as the hardest player to play against in the league.
     
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    David Poile gave up a 1st for Paul Gaustad about a decade ago, in what I think would be a similar situation. A guy that coaches and executives dream of having play on their PK and 4th line, but makes fans eyes gloss over most of the time.

    IIRC Gaustad was a rental, too. They had maybe generally agreed that he would extend, but his contract was expiring. Glendening's deal still has term on it.
     
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    He gave up a 1st for Ryan Hartman last year.
     
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    Thank you for the more recent example.

    I think the youth/ RFA angle might account for the overpay there, but yes also extremely similar.

    PS please play in the HFWings fantasy hockey league
     
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    I agree with you but it wouldn't surprise me if he fetched a first from a conference final or better hopeful team in need of a #4 center.
     
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    That was such a nuanced trade, though. Gaustad was statistically more of a low-end 3C who could also play the wing on a scoring line. He scored at a 31 point pace throughout his career prior to being traded to Nashville and was still being hyped as a guy that might have a 40 point season up his sleeve. He was also a perennial top faceoff guy and a distracting 6'5". He brought a lot more hype and excitement at the fan level than Glendening does. On a scale of Glendening to Draper, Gaustad was closer to Draper in terms of esteem.

    Then you have to consider that Nashville was a top team when they traded for Gaustad but didn't really have the horses up front to compete in anything but a "win-by-committee" fashion. He was a great fit for that strategy, current and future. He was also one of the last guys traded at the deadline which leads me to believe there was either a bidding war or Nashville was highly desperate.

    Either way, lots going on behind the scenes there. Only way I could see a comparable situation happening would be a deal specifically with Toronto because Babcock is so enamored by Glendening, they could use the PK/Faceoff help, and if Toronto loses out on the chance to bolster their defense with a sound positional defenseman, they could get desperate for a cheap, steadying addition that will assist the defense up front.

    Glen with some retention + our 2019 3rd for TML's 2019 1st doesn't seem outlandish then.
     
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    If we can do a package deal to get someone's 1st round pick, I'd be ok with it. Trading Luke by himself for a 4th or 5th doesn't seem like it would be worth it. We are thin at center as is unless we've been putting Ras there. (I haven't been able to catch any games on account of my work schedule being 3-midnight.)
     
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    It's not. Glendening is a youngish, bonafide NHL regular. Your chances of hitting that in the 4th or 5th round are awful. There's no reason to go for that unless you just wanna swing for the fences 4 times in the next draft or something.
     
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    Thank you, I feel like this point goes routinely ignored. Obtaining a late round pick for a lower end NHL player often means you don't get anything in return in the scheme of things. The notion to "get anything you can for any player" that is widely seen among fans is both foolish and shortsighted
     
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    Agree about not giving him away, disagree about him being youngish. The guy's 29. I wouldn't move him for anything less than a 2nd, though.
     
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    It makes sense at certain ages. If a player is 35 and you're rebuilding there's not very much value in keeping the old guy. At least getting a pick gives you a CHANCE to reload with another draft pick who COULD become another NHL player. But Glendening has at least another 5 years of hockey in him. He's under 30.
     
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    I think this Toronto ship already sailed. They have been going without Matthews with Tavares-Kadri-Lindholm-Gauthier center core, and have been winning 70% of games as TOP3 team in the league.

    Those guys are on Faceoffs:

    Tavares 50.3%
    Matthews 52.8%
    Kadri 54.0%
    Lindholm 56.0%
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    Gauthier 47.8%

    With the healthy TOP4, when MAtthews comes back, they don't need anybody there.

    Lindholm is their home-grown "Glendening". 4th line center, who takes most of his faceoffs from D-zone. He also plays on 1st PK unit, takes most PK draws and has won 52.5% of them. Hyman takes the faceoffs in 2nd PK unit and has been 50% in them.
     
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    I don't think the majority of the conversation is along these lines, though. Most fans are saying DON'T give him away for a song, but if you can somehow leverage a 2nd rounder or better for him, that's a good deal.
     
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    You're not wrong, but I would make the argument that it's good for the culture of the club to hold on to a guy post 35 if he has given a lot to the team. AKA a career Wing. I think it would be kinda messed up to trade someone like Kronwall per say right now. Take care of your boys till the end.

    Gotcha. Yeah I mean if you can get a 2nd for him lets do this baby
     
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    Same stance as last year's deadline when this was a rather hot topic. Get a 1st or 2nd for Luke or move on; it's not a deal we need to make or a contract we need to shed. He's a good player in his role and could likely be a valued addition to a playoff team - if they want him badly enough they have to sacrifice to get him.
     
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    I agree. Luke is one of the few who meets or exceeds expectations on this team. I say keep him unless we get something good like a 2nd or more for him.
    If there is anyone on the team I would like to put on the trading block, it would be DDK.
     
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    https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-leafs-interested-in-red-wings-glendening-again-1.1254421

    Same rumors again as year ago.

    Maybe this time Toronto pulls the trigger.

    I'd like Connor Brown being the piece send to us. That would make cap work better for the Leafs.

     
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    Brown is a career 32pt/82gp on a offensive juggernaut team, RHS winger who is already 25...why do you want him? I like the RHS part, but what else does he bring to the table? Glendening is our only RHC. I think Luke could hit 32pts on the Leafs & shutdown an opposing 1c/2c. While Brown's #'s are regressing, but maybe that's deployment & TOI...either way his ppg avg would go down in Det.
     
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    Brown's role and usage would be a lot different (read: increased) here, I would think

    That's not to say we should do it 1 for 1, but if he is coming back for cap purposes I have no issue with that
     
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    He is probably a power play guy in Detroit on the second unit. At least he should get run out there before the Adbdelkader and Helm moments...

    Not really for Brown, not totally against him. I think that sort of fubars a spot I have in my mind for Svechnikov next season though. I don't think we need more wingers here. If we are adding a winger I am more interested in re-signing Nyquist or going after Breadman in free agency, so a bigger move. Brown just doesn't move the needle enough for me. But he very well could find himself in a more offensive role and higher up the depth chart here.

    Value on Glendening remains a second. Perhaps we can squeeze a B prospect as well. The idea that we would eat money on him though which is floated by some of the Toronto people is really a non-starter for me unless we are getting a better asset. You know the ones they don't want to part with if we are eating any cash as far as I am concerned.
     
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    I wonder what is trading value for DD?
     

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