Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2018-2019 (Part 3)

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If Stone doesn't want an extension, would Ottawa be enticed to a 1 for 1 swap with Tarasenko?

Contracts AAV are similar so Melnyks payroll is relatively unaffected and Tarasenko has term, similar age, same position.

Something isn't right in St. Louis so a shakeup may be in order and this idea popped in my head.
 
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If Stone doesn't want an extension, would Ottawa be enticed to a 1 for 1 swap with Tarasenko?

Contracts AAV are similar so Melnyks payroll is relatively unaffected and Tarasenko has term, similar age, same position.

Something isn't right in St. Louis so a shakeup may be in order and this idea popped in my head.
Melnyk/Sens don’t do Russians..
 
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I would be in favor of trading Tierney, Boedker and Demelo at the trade deadline. They started out strong but they have been a lot more mediocre lately. I am not convinced that they are log term pieces and if someone is willing to overpay then I think we should trade them.
 

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I would be in favor of trading Tierney, Boedker and Demelo at the trade deadline. They started out strong but they have been a lot more mediocre lately. I am not convinced that they are log term pieces and if someone is willing to overpay then I think we should trade them.
I'd like to keep Tierney and Demelo another year at least. I think both have been steady.
 
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If Stone doesn't want an extension, would Ottawa be enticed to a 1 for 1 swap with Tarasenko?

Contracts AAV are similar so Melnyks payroll is relatively unaffected and Tarasenko has term, similar age, same position.

Something isn't right in St. Louis so a shakeup may be in order and this idea popped in my head.
I'd do this in a heartbeat.

The Blues would not.
 

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I'd do this in a heartbeat.

The Blues would not.

I'm pretty sure they would do that easily if Stone would agree to an extension.

Stone is probably the best two way winger in the game and has been better than Tarasenko last year and this year at least. They are both young and although Tarasenko is a better goal scorer he is not nearly as good as Stone all around and Stone still produces more.
 

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we really need to start taking some waivers on some cheap d men. so they can intermittently be plugged into the lineup to give a kid or two a break.. it doesn't even matter if theyre crap theyre just lambs for slaughter.. I now undewrstand cecis value lol. shit player for shit situations so no one else is negatively impacted
 
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I'm pretty sure they would do that easily if Stone would agree to an extension.

Stone is probably the best two way winger in the game and has been better than Tarasenko last year and this year at least. They are both young and although Tarasenko is a better goal scorer he is not nearly as good as Stone all around and Stone still produces more.

Stone getting massively overrated again.

Tarasenko is signed at 7.5 cap hit unti 22-23. He is far more valuable than Stone.
 

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Stone getting massively overrated again.

Tarasenko is signed at 7.5 cap hit unti 22-23. He is far more valuable than Stone.

Tarasenko is overrated he's not been the same player he was a couple years ago and Stone has just been better and better.

Don't agree at all. There is no way in hell Tarasenko is more valuable than Stone and even less "far more" valuable that's just false. Especially considering we were talking about an extended Stone. Their game away from the puck is not even comparable on top of Stone being better offensively. Tarasenko has a better shot but that's it.

This season and last Stone has been 1.09PPG while Tarasenko has been 0.83PPG. This is not close especially that Stone is better defensively.
 
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Tarasenko is overrated he's not been the same player he was a couple years ago and Stone has just been better and better.

Don't agree at all. There is no way in hell Tarasenko is more valuable than Stone and even less "far more" valuable that's just false. Especially considering we we're talking about an extended Stone. Their game away from the puck is not even comparable on top of Stone being better offensively. Tarasenko has a better shot but that's it.
Over the last 3 1/4 seasons.

Tarasenko is 20th in scoring for Forwards with 118 goals and 231 points.
Stone is 34th with 74 goals and 201 points.

Tarasenko is locked into a 7.5 cap hit.
Stone will sign for significantly more.

Tarasenko has more value.
 

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Over the last 3 1/4 seasons.

Tarasenko is 20th in scoring for Forwards with 118 goals and 231 points.
Stone is 34th with 74 goals and 201 points.

Tarasenko is locked into a 7.5 cap hit.
Stone will sign for significantly more.

Tarasenko has more value.
Stone carries far more value as a hockey player, even at 8.5M cap hit. But if Stone isn't re-signing Tarasenko would be a steal in a deal.
 

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Over the last 3 1/4 seasons.

Tarasenko is 20th in scoring for Forwards with 118 goals and 231 points.
Stone is 34th with 74 goals and 201 points.

Tarasenko is locked into a 7.5 cap hit.
Stone will sign for significantly more.

Tarasenko has more value.

Nah he doesn't.

Stone will sign for 1.5M more per and is worth more as well. Tarasenko will be more valuable when he can start playing like he did 3 1/4 seasons ago.

One is trending up and one is trending down.

If we can't re-sign Stone I'd take Tarasenko but I'd much rather keep Stone.

Also Stone is not a goalscorer, he's more of a playmaker stealing pucks and transitoning the game from the Dzone to the Ozone. Tarasenko is a sniper.. No point in comparing goals.
 
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Nah he doesn't.

Stone will sign for 1.5M more per and is worth more as well. Tarasenko will be more valuable when he can start playing like he did 3 1/4 seasons ago.

One is trending up and one is trending down.

If we can't re-sign Stone I'd take Tarasenko but I'd much rather keep Stone.

Also Stone is not a goalscorer, he's more of a playmaker stealing pucks and transitoning the game from the Dzone to the Ozone. Tarasenko is a sniper.. No point in comparing goals.
You really think tarasenko is trending down ? Truthfully.
 

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Nah he doesn't.

Stone will sign for 1.5M more per and is worth more as well. Tarasenko will be more valuable when he can start playing like he did 3 1/4 seasons ago.

One is trending up and one is trending down.

If we can't re-sign Stone I'd take Tarasenko but I'd much rather keep Stone.

Also Stone is not a goalscorer, he's more of a playmaker stealing pucks and transitoning the game from the Dzone to the Ozone. Tarasenko is a sniper.. No point in comparing goals.
Absolutely.
 

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You really think tarasenko is trending down ? Truthfully.

He's not playing as good as he did a couple years back just ask Blues fans or go on the Blues board. He's still a good player let's not kid ourselves but Stone is in another tier right now and has been for 100 games while playing with Pageau, Smith, Brassard, Tierney.

There are rumours somethings up between him and St-Louis maybe that explains it but he certainly has not been as good as he had previously been.
 

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He's not playing as good as he did a couple years back just ask Blues fans or go on the Blues board. He's still a good player let's not kid ourselves but Stone is in another tier right now and has been for 100 games while playing with Pageau, Smith, Brassard, Tierney.

There are rumours somethings up between him and St-Louis maybe that explains it but he certainly has not been as good as he had previously been.
I definitely like Stone's all around game better. The fact that he makes other players better is huge.

I would try to resign him unless his demands are lubricious, which I don't think they will be if he genuinely wants to be here
 

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I'd like to keep Tierney and Demelo another year at least. I think both have been steady.

Lol they are 24 and 25 years old on terrific contracts that post made absolutely no sense from an asset management and financial position. Tierney has been awesome this year, what did people expect exactly? He isnt a fancy player so people have a hard time seeing his value but he makes the right play almost every time on both sides of the puck.

This team needs to get rid of Ceci he is brain dead/doesnt care its one of the two. The complete lack of effort at times and defensive awareness is a guy that doesnt care/isnt prepared or just flat out sucks. I really think its an attitude thing more than anything with him because he has the physical ability. Its not an easy place to play in your home town, especially when everything is magnified and the coach uses you in the incorrect way, id probably want out too.

Demello has been a pleasant surprise for me, he is a bottom pairing D that has played over his head at a great price and seems to have a good attitude.
 

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He's not playing as good as he did a couple years back just ask Blues fans or go on the Blues board. He's still a good player let's not kid ourselves but Stone is in another tier right now and has been for 100 games while playing with Pageau, Smith, Brassard, Tierney.

There are rumours somethings up between him and St-Louis maybe that explains it but he certainly has not been as good as he had previously been.
Its true he is trending down, not the same player I am afraid some Russians really mail it in at 30 too. I have no interest in trading Stone for him id rather go for futures, but really any Stone trade at this point I am going to stop following this team there is no point.
 

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Over the last 3 1/4 seasons.

Tarasenko is 20th in scoring for Forwards with 118 goals and 231 points.
Stone is 34th with 74 goals and 201 points.

Tarasenko is locked into a 7.5 cap hit.
Stone will sign for significantly more.

Tarasenko has more value.

He has more value only because he is signed, at 7.5 million the sens should be in the ball park to sign Stone and he is the more valuable signed asset.
 
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